I hate NHS

Its not the peoples fault that this is happening, most people dont want to be in hospital unless they really have to. Like you said the tories are making cuts everywhere and closing down A&Es so why blame this on the patients?

There are subgroups of patients who aren't entirely blameless. In particular, there is a growing lack of personal responsibility which is almost always paired with a sense of inflated entitlement.

I'm referring especially to those people who turn up to A&E with chronic conditions because they're too impatient for a GP appointment. They are often very quick to complain about their 4hr wait and are deluded into thinking that the staff are behind the doors twiddling their thumbs.

Shocking given that only a few generations ago, healthcare was exclusively within the remit of the very wealthy and otherwise inaccessible to the wider population.

There are subgroups of patients who aren't entirely blameless. In particular, there is a growing lack of personal responsibility which is almost always paired with a sense of inflated entitlement.

I'm referring especially to those people who turn up to A&E with chronic conditions because they're too impatient for a GP appointment. They are often very quick to complain about their 4hr wait and are deluded into thinking that the staff are behind the doors twiddling their thumbs.

Shocking given that only a few generations ago, healthcare was exclusively within the remit of the very wealthy and otherwise inaccessible to the wider population.

Indeed. I also wonder how many people know that for minor things, you can just go to the chemist? I've done that if it's not that serious and I know roughly what the problem is. (allergic reaction, etc)

I expect most people in this country are aware of what a pharmacy is.
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There will be people like that but they are not the majority.

I didn't say they were the majority, but what I described does form a significant enough proportion to cause detriment to other patients.



Except I'm not talking about sick patients, am I? And there is nothing wrong with my attitude.



Why? Because of the issue I've just described to you. Ask these patients why they didn't attend their GP surgery and they will just shrug at you.

I didn't say they were the majority, but what I described does form a significant enough proportion to cause detriment to other patients.



Except I'm not talking about sick patients, am I? And there is nothing wrong with my attitude.



Why? Because of the issue I've just described to you. Ask these patients why they didn't attend their GP surgery and they will just shrug at you.

I think it is acceptable to go to a&e if your gp doesn't have any appointments available .

Go and do some research. The crisis in the nhs isnt due to a growing number of hypochondriacs in the country. Five hospitals are being shut down in north london alone. Many people are unable to get gp appointments and their condition then gets worse.
Im done talking to you. Your ignorance just makes me mad.

I think it is acceptable to go to a&e if your gp doesn't have any appointments available but I think it is unacceptable for people to go there because of their lifestyle such as alcoholism,smoking.

I'm not saying these patients are hypochondraics.

I'm not saying this is the SOLE reason the NHS is in crisis.

You're getting mad about false inferences from my posts. You proposed that patients are entirely blameless. There are groups that are not.



I disagree fundamentally with both of these statements.

Its not even the main reason the nhs is in crisis which is what you seem to be suggesting.

How the **** can I produce evidence for a process yet to be shown to the public due to it being incomplete? **** me.

You are a quack. To make assumptions without providing evidence makes you a quack. It's not an insult; it's a simple adjective. Sending me to a clearly biased news article does not count as evidence — before you start.

Except it's not what I'm suggesting is it? I've clearly stated the opposite.

You're getting upset over your own incorrect interpretations of what I'm saying.

I know what a quack is.

Hi. Clearly these people don't know what you've been through. I had enough of people thinking that they're so smart that they can make me feel like a fool but oh no you're not anymore 'cause I had enough of their judging (just because they are doctors and think they know best, when they're just more worried about the money than the people) and I'll report it I swear I will (a thing I should I have done a long time ago), 'cause I had enough of people going trough this! so dear that's an attitude you should never loose. You want the best for yourself and family, and friends and if you feel like you've been mistreated then you have the right to report it and have your say. No one is going to physically stop you from it. I was afraid too but not anymore. You have to feel comfortable and well, that's why doctors are there for you, not for judging and labeling and send you home or saying you are "mentally ill". Honestly f that ****e, 'cause clearly they are just being greedy and not caring humans. And having your mum etc important people dying on the family or close friends. I can say this 'cause I have been through so many time through this and it's quite annoying and sad and you just feel like you want to change the NHS for a better health care system so people don't have to suffer like this. Personally in my other country we have to pay to go to the doctors no matter what but AT LEAST they do care and do all the possible tests necessary and give them back on the same day if not you'll get them the next day, so I don't see why people are saying your comment it's absurd, cheeky, etc. You people really need to see what's like suffering and no one is there to help you. It took them more than 3 years! to diagnose me with simple anemia! That's really incredible isn't it? + A couple more health problems I have such as epilepsy, chronic back pain, due to curvature on my back, etc. And don't even mention that they gave me the wrong eyeglasses prescription! And once I had an ear infection and they said just to go home! + I used to see a neurologist and he demited or retired, whatever he did, he's not there anymore, so I did some tests and they discharged me, without even saying why?! And I'm here with a very serious chronic illness that's running my life, and causing all these problems and I don't know what to do, 'cause they don't do anything! What I usually do is (if I have an opportunity) see my doctor in my country when I go there in holidays and at least you don't need to wait so freaking long and they run all the tests you want and need and listen to you! Not send you home or just label you as mentally ill?! That's what is absurd! So you see the NHS doesn't really do much and if they just send you home to take paracetamol, they don't have a clue how bad that sometimes can be to your liver! It's not only me that's complaining or no! All my friends including the ones from here say it's absolutely rubbish! They don't care if it is free, they rather pay and see what's wrong 1st and treat it with the adequate treatment; but quick and effective, since the doctors are there for you since the 1st day, not like here, they dismiss you until practically, things are so bad that you are in the edge of dying, and I'm not dramatizing! Even my doctors from my country say the same thing, so I just hope people are not so selfish and open their eyes to see what's really like to suffer and they can't blooming do anything because they're either too busy, etc. Don't come up to me and say oh you just had a bad experience, because if someone came up to me and said that or something similar and gave me a fiver or whatever I would be rich! And say that I'm a hypochondriac, at least I care for my health and yes there is real problems in my health caused by an autoimmune disease causing all of this (that's what my doctors of my country said at least and I'm going back there to find out what they're going to do about it or want other tests to confirm it, because in all honesty here it can take years, more than necessary if you ask me, so I just gave up trying here). I'm on your side dear, when all these people don't have a clue what's like to be on the edge and still the docs don't care to do anything or dismiss you 'cause they don't and/or can't find what's wrong! C'mon people stop being like a child hiding behind whatever you hiding and come out and have your say! I don't want to see anymore people suffering like this! It's a disgrace! I'm not saying I don't like the NHS, but the way they do things and the way it's structured it's a shame! My friend lost his mother at only 3 years old + his sister who was barely 1! Why? Because the doctors just said to her, oh just go home and everything will be fine! Fine? Fine you say?! Well clearly not! She was in excruciating pain and died, simply because the doctors were too greed to run tests, simply because they thought it wasn't worth it/or necessary. For all the people that said something against you dear: So go on delete my comment if you think it's "offensive" or just don't want other people see what is really going on. I just say to you, that I hope you never go through this because clearly you don't know what's like loosing a family member and friend simply because the doctors didn't care. Even the doctors in my country say that, that the NHS (the way it's structured) is not the best health care system. And I experienced that myself. Thank you. And if you yet didn't have this problem with the NHS I'm glad! Kudos to you, but I know what these people are going through and suffer each day so stop denying it people and open your eyes for once! I'm studying currently to be in the health department but as soon as I get my degree, I'm not going to work on this corrupt system (excuse my saying) or if I am I'm going to change it, and that I promise you, so people don't have to suffer so long and eventually become so debilitated that they just die. Let's stop this for once! Thank you.

Hi. Clearly these people don't know what you've been through. I had enough of people thinking that they're so smart that they can make me feel like a fool but oh no you're not anymore 'cause I had enough of their judging (just because they are doctors and think they know best, when they're just more worried about the money than the people) and I'll report it I swear I will (a thing I should I have done a long time ago), 'cause I had enough of people going trough this! so dear that's an attitude you should never loose. You want the best for yourself and family, and friends and if you feel like you've been mistreated then you have the right to report it and have your say. No one is going to physically stop you from it. I was afraid too but not anymore. You have to feel comfortable and well, that's why doctors are there for you, not for judging and labeling and send you home or saying you are "mentally ill". Honestly f that ****e, 'cause clearly they are just being greedy and not caring humans. And having your mum etc important people dying on the family or close friends. I can say this 'cause I have been through so many time through this and it's quite annoying and sad and you just feel like you want to change the NHS for a better health care system so people don't have to suffer like this. Personally in my other country we have to pay to go to the doctors no matter what but AT LEAST they do care and do all the possible tests necessary and give them back on the same day if not you'll get them the next day, so I don't see why people are saying your comment it's absurd, cheeky, etc. You people really need to see what's like suffering and no one is there to help you. It took them more than 3 years! to diagnose me with simple anemia! That's really incredible isn't it? + A couple more health problems I have such as epilepsy, chronic back pain, due to curvature on my back, etc. And don't even mention that they gave me the wrong eyeglasses prescription! And once I had an ear infection and they said just to go home! + I used to see a neurologist and he demited or retired, whatever he did, he's not there anymore, so I did some tests and they discharged me, without even saying why?! And I'm here with a very serious chronic illness that's running my life, and causing all these problems and I don't know what to do, 'cause they don't do anything! What I usually do is (if I have an opportunity) see my doctor in my country when I go there in holidays and at least you don't need to wait so freaking long and they run all the tests you want and need and listen to you! Not send you home or just label you as mentally ill?! That's what is absurd! So you see the NHS doesn't really do much and if they just send you home to take paracetamol, they don't have a clue how bad that sometimes can be to your liver! It's not only me that's complaining or no! All my friends including the ones from here say it's absolutely rubbish! They don't care if it is free, they rather pay and see what's wrong 1st and treat it with the adequate treatment; but quick and effective, since the doctors are there for you since the 1st day, not like here, they dismiss you until practically, things are so bad that you are in the edge of dying, and I'm not dramatizing! Even my doctors from my country say the same thing, so I just hope people are not so selfish and open their eyes to see what's really like to suffer and they can't blooming do anything because they're either too busy, etc. Don't come up to me and say oh you just had a bad experience, because if someone came up to me and said that or something similar and gave me a fiver or whatever I would be rich! And say that I'm a hypochondriac, at least I care for my health and yes there is real problems in my health caused by an autoimmune disease causing all of this (that's what my doctors of my country said at least and I'm going back there to find out what they're going to do about it or want other tests to confirm it, because in all honesty here it can take years, more than necessary if you ask me, so I just gave up trying here). I'm on your side dear, when all these people don't have a clue what's like to be on the edge and still the docs don't care to do anything or dismiss you 'cause they don't and/or can't find what's wrong! C'mon people stop being like a child hiding behind whatever you hiding and come out and have your say! I don't want to see anymore people suffering like this! It's a disgrace! I'm not saying I don't like the NHS, but the way they do things and the way it's structured it's a shame! My friend lost his mother at only 3 years old + his sister who was barely 1! Why? Because the doctors just said to her, oh just go home and everything will be fine! Fine? Fine you say?! Well clearly not! She was in excruciating pain and died, simply because the doctors were too greed to run tests, simply because they thought it wasn't worth it/or necessary. For all the people that said something against you dear: So go on delete my comment if you think it's "offensive" or just don't want other people see what is really going on. I just say to you, that I hope you never go through this because clearly you don't know what's like loosing a family member and friend simply because the doctors didn't care. Even the doctors in my country say that, that the NHS (the way it's structured) is not the best health care system. And I experienced that myself. Thank you. And if you yet didn't have this problem with the NHS I'm glad! Kudos to you, but I know what these people are going through and suffer each day so stop denying it people and open your eyes for once! I'm studying currently to be in the health department but as soon as I get my degree, I'm not going to work on this corrupt system (excuse my saying) or if I am I'm going to change it, and that I promise you, so people don't have to suffer so long and eventually become so debilitated that they just die. Let's stop this for once! Thank you.