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Original post by SHBK
Can someone explain what xenophobia is please?

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Xeno, means multi/different/foreign. I think
Phobia, means irrational fear. I think.

Though, how anyone cold have an irrational fear of Islam beggars belief. At least they are using actual words now to slander people, and not just sticking phobia on the end of existing ones.

Islamophobia anyone ?
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Original post by JohnCrichton89
Xeno, means multi/different/foreign. I think
Phobia, means irrational fear. I think.

Though, how anyone could have an irrational fear of Islam beggars belief. At least they are using actual words now to slander people, and not just sticking phobia on the end of existing ones.

Islamophobia anyone ?


Thanks. Aha yeah you can't really be scared of Islam. But I think it means hatred towards Islam or opposition to it. I think it should be in reference to terrorism and not Islam and it's followers as a whole.

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Original post by captainslow69
What supporting scripture? That is what i meant by 'please expand'.


You're serious............you need me to go dig out some of the violent passages in the Quran, because ?

Your obviously baiting something, why not just come out and say it ?

I swear I wont be offended and try to kill you for questioning/criticising my beliefs.
Original post by SHBK
Thanks. Aha yeah you can't really be scared of Islam. But I think it means hatred towards Islam or opposition to it. I think it should be in reference to terrorism and not Islam and it's followers as a whole.

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What is wrong with hating Islam? Islam is an ideology not a person or ethnic group etc.
Original post by SHBK
Thanks. Aha yeah you can't really be scared of Islam. But I think it means hatred towards Islam or opposition to it. I think it should be in reference to terrorism and not Islam and it's followers as a whole.

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I would argue you can, rightfully, be scared of Islam........... when your fears are justified it's not irrational though, it's not a phobia.

To have a phobia of Islam you would have to be oblivious to all the pious Muslims doing the lords work with semi-automatic rifles and bombs, targeting women and children as they cite the Quran.
Norway is a tolerant, accepting nation that has a long history of Islamic immigration and tolerance.
People should be grateful they can learn from and make friends with people from all over the world thanks to multiculturalism.
PEGIDA hold peaceful protests against legitimate grievances. Why would people insist on forcing half the globe onto a nation then complaining when the natives resist? I find the left's actions over the last 60 years abhorrent, un-justified and downright compromising. It's just surprising Europeans have been so patient and tolerant of in the face of Multicultural Supremacy.

African-Americans rioted over Mike Brown - destroying cars, homes, businesses, assaulting people yet everybody supported them, no calls of racism of xenophobia - even when two police officers were shot in revenge. No crys of 'a rise in anti-police activity' or xenephobia from rioting African-Americans. I guess they can't be racist.
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Original post by democracyforum
Norway is a tolerant, accepting nation that has a long history of Islamic immigration and tolerance.
People should be grateful they can learn from and make friends with people from all over the world thanks to multiculturalism.


Co-existence is awesome. We can learn from each other and improve as a society and establish unity. Let's not let baddies hijacking religions or groups to decide where the group stands.
Coexistence and revolution ftw

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Original post by democracyforum
Norway is a tolerant, accepting nation that has a long history of Islamic immigration and tolerance.
People should be grateful they can learn from and make friends with people from all over the world thanks to multiculturalism.


Can't tell if your trolling or being serious ?

Just in case.

Yeah, people were always able to make friends with people from all over the world before multiculturalism........it generally involved travelling or studying abroad.

What's more, you got to chose who you wanted to meet and who's culture you wanted to learn about.

Te idea that the millions of Muslims that now live in England have been anything other than an undemocratic blight forced on the populace by champaign socialists is laughable.
Original post by JohnCrichton89
You're serious............you need me to go dig out some of the violent passages in the Quran, because ?

Your obviously baiting something, why not just come out and say it ?

I swear I wont be offended and try to kill you for questioning/criticising my beliefs.


I am not attempting to bait anything, I just think that maybe you might have an opinion on a matter in which you have little knowledge about.

And I really couldn't give a monkeys about your feelings towards me or about your beliefs, so I'm not really sure why you needed to say that :confused:
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Original post by captainslow69
I am not attempting to bait anything, I just think that maybe you might have an opinion on a matter in which you have little knowledge about.

And I really couldn't give a monkeys about your feelings towards me or about your beliefs, so I'm really sure why you needed to say that :confused:


It's important, nowadays, to let each other know we are going to talk and not go all Jihad on each other over hurt feelings. No ?

Let me get this right.

You think I'm not qualified to say the evil actions perpetrated by many Muslims, in the name of Islam, are instigated by plausible and valid interpretations of the faith and the scripture..........is that a fair understanding of what your implying ?
Original post by captainslow69
I am not attempting to bait anything, I just think that maybe you might have an opinion on a matter in which you have little knowledge about.

And I really couldn't give a monkeys about your feelings towards me or about your beliefs, so I'm not really sure why you needed to say that :confused:


Calling someone ignorant or accusing them of not knowing what they are talking about is a typical ploy against people who criticise Islam. It is not an argument and violent, homophobic, misogynistic, genocidal, oppressive, war mongering excerpts from the The Quran has been argued to death TSR.

i agree with the op that he. should not have to spew these verses when they are common knowledge on TSR every time someone screams show me the verses
Original post by JohnCrichton89
It's important, nowadays, to let each other know we are going to talk and not go all Jihad on each other over hurt feelings. No ?

Let me get this right.

You think I'm not qualified to say the evil actions perpetrated by many Muslims, in the name of Islam, are instigated by plausible and valid interpretations of the faith and the scripture..........is that a fair understanding of what your implying ?


Tbh the first part I won't even dignify with a response.

The second part well yes pretty much. I mean if you do know what you are saying and you have studied the Qu'ran in a lot of detail the history of the Middle East in a lot of detail, all nine volumes of Sahih-Al Bukhari, and are an expert in the arabic language then I guess any opinions you say might be valid. If you also look at any ISIS or Al-Qaeda propaganda you will find that actual verses from the Qu'ran are very rarely used. And if the Qu'ran actually did order muslims to kill non-believers, then I don't think there would be much humans, or a planet earth left.




Original post by Native To Europe
Calling someone ignorant or accusing them of not knowing what they are talking about is a typical ploy against people who criticise Islam. It is not an argument and violent, homophobic, misogynistic, genocidal, oppressive, war mongering excerpts from the The Quran has been argued to death TSR.

i agree with the op that he. should not have to spew these verses when they are common knowledge on TSR every time someone screams show me the verses


That is most probably because people usually have very little knowledge to back up their claims. Most of the time it is usually because people just simply cherry-pick quotes from the Qu-ran, with very little interpretation or understanding of the context behind it.
It's not Xenophonbia. It's just a phobia of Muslim terrorists or ISIS. Those brutes are now the big threat to the whole world.

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Original post by captainslow69
Tbh the first part I won't even dignify with a response.

The second part well yes pretty much. I mean if you do know what you are saying and you have studied the Qu'ran in a lot of detail the history of the Middle East in a lot of detail, all nine volumes of Sahih-Al Bukhari, and are an expert in the arabic language then I guess any opinions you say might be valid. If you also look at any ISIS or Al-Qaeda propaganda you will find that actual verses from the Qu'ran are very rarely used. And if the Qu'ran actually did order muslims to kill non-believers, then I don't think there would be much humans, or a planet earth left.






That is most probably because people usually have very little knowledge to back up their claims. Most of the time it is usually because people just simply cherry-pick quotes from the Qu-ran, with very little interpretation or understanding of the context behind it.


in what context is killing people, enslaving people, sexually enslaving kaffir women, throwing homosexuals off mountains and so on and on acceptable ?
Original post by Native To Europe
in what context is killing people, enslaving people, sexually enslaving kaffir women, throwing homosexuals off mountains and so on and on acceptable ?


Killing people, enslaving people, sexually enslaving non-believers and throwing homosexuals off mountains? Who said anything about those being acceptable (except ISIS and other affiliated groups)? Where have you got such information from (and if you say the Qu'ran are you sure you have studied the part you are referring to very carefully and not just misinterpreted?)?
Original post by captainslow69
Tbh the first part I won't even dignify with a response.

The second part well yes pretty much. I mean if you do know what you are saying and you have studied the Qu'ran in a lot of detail the history of the Middle East in a lot of detail, all nine volumes of Sahih-Al Bukhari, and are an expert in the arabic language then I guess any opinions you say might be valid. If you also look at any ISIS or Al-Qaeda propaganda you will find that actual verses from the Qu'ran are very rarely used. And if the Qu'ran actually did order muslims to kill non-believers, then I don't think there would be much humans, or a planet earth left.





You're wrong on a number of counts.

For a start we could have this argument irrespective of scriptural knowledge, it simply isn't a factor. Or a very small one at that. I don't have to be an Islamic scholar versed in ancient Arabic.......... such a ludicrous claim.

Are you an Islamic scholar that can understand ancient Arabic ?


Whether or not I think that such extremist groups have a plausible interpretation of Islam grounded in Islamic scripture doesn't matter, what matters is that very real Muslims do. And it has been a mainstream interpretation of the faith among Muslims since its inception.

Many Muslims (not a fringe minority) have read the Quran, they have read the Hadiths and they have understood Islam to call for the death and subjugation of non-Muslims.

This makes their interpretation all the things I said;
A very real and very plausible interpretation grounded in Islamic scripture.
So plausible that many of them are willing to die in the process of killing/enslaving all non-Muslims.
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They're racists so what? you try having your country flooded with millions of people and despite voting in parties who claim to cut immigration never do. We're not living in a functioning Democracy.

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