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Holocaust Eyewitness Film tonight

To help understand the tragic situation in the Holy Land you may wish to watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZisVwKW3GqM

I shall be watching.
Watching. The footages are so shocking and disturbing. I find it disgusting and insulting that there are holocaust deniers who deny the experiences and memories of survivors of this horrific event.
No one denies people died of disease and starvation in the camps. But, as this film inadvertently reveals, there was no planned extermination and certainly no gas chambers.
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Original post by capitalismstinks
No one denies people died of disease and starvation in the camps. But, as this film inadvertently reveals, there was no planned extermination and certainly no gas chambers.


Do you every get sick of spouting the same garbage over and over again?
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Original post by capitalismstinks
No one denies people died of disease and starvation in the camps. But, as this film inadvertently reveals, there was no planned extermination and certainly no gas chambers.


Most of the xamps were not execution camps, but death camps did exists with a sole function being to wipe out as many humans as possible.
Original post by Viceroy
Do you every get sick of spouting the same garbage over and over again?



No, never get tired of the facts.
Original post by james22
Most of the xamps were not execution camps, but death camps did exists with a sole function being to wipe out as many humans as possible.



The death camps were an allied, and specificially a soviet, propaganda lie. They rolled into prisoner camps, sensationalised what they found for the public at home, which is what victorious armies have done throughout human history, and the lie has stuck.

There isn't any evidence of a planned extermination. Not one shread.
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Original post by capitalismstinks
The death camps were an allied, and specificially a soviet, propaganda lie. They rolled into prisoner camps, sensationalised what they found for the public at home, which is what victorious armies have done throughout human history, and the lie has stuck.

There isn't any evidence of a planned extermination. Not one shread.


Thankfully very few people believe in the garbage you are saying, so I am not really concerned with debunking this.
Original post by james22
Thankfully very few people believe in the garbage you are saying, so I am not really concerned with debunking this.


You can't debunk it because it's literally impossible for you or anyone else to supply evidence of a planned extermination agenda. Such an undertaking would have had to have been meticulously planned and documented. But not one shread of evidence exists to support the Soviet propaganda lie.
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Original post by capitalismstinks
You can't debunk it because it's literally impossible for you or anyone else to supply evidence of a planned extermination agenda. Such an undertaking would have had to have been meticulously planned and documented. But not one shread of evidence exists to support the Soviet propaganda lie.


And you will never convince any more than a tiny fraction of the population of this, so you can't win.
Original post by capitalismstinks
Conventional wisdom is almost always wrong about everything.

Ask yourself this. The official sanctioned holocaust narrative is that the nazis intentionally exterminated 6 million jewish people, yet, official records say roughly 13 million people died in nazi concentration camps. So, what happend to the other 7 million non jews? Were they intentionally exterminated or was the intentional extermination reserved for jewish people only? Obviously, even if you believe in the official narrative you still have to concede that millions of inmates did actually die of typhus and starvation, which leads to the obvious question of how many were actually intentionally exterminated?

So what's the actual figure? I don't expect an answer because there was no extermination camps anyway, but even if you did believe in them, you would have to accept that the official 6 million figure is just nonsense. If extermination camps did exist the figure would be far below 6 million because of those killed by disease and starvation.


The 6 million figure is all the Jews who died as a result of the the Nazi opression. Dying from disease due to being locked up in a camp it's really any better. The extermination camps existed because we can go and see them and have huge amounts of witness testimoney.
You can go and visit concentration camps that were reclassified as death camps by allied propaganda, and you can hear witness testimony from inmates who clearly were not in death camps otherwise you wouldn't be hearing their testimoy.

The thing about the official narrative, is that it's so weak it's illegal to question it in many european nations. In the UK it's not technically illegal, but questioning it is worse than being accused of peadophilia.

The narrative we get today wasn't even invented until the 70s. For example, Winston Churchill himself wrote a multi volume series on WW2 and not once does he mention death camps, gas chambers or planned exterminations.
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Original post by capitalismstinks
No, never get tired of the facts.


I think you need to look up what a fact is in the dictionary because you clearly don't get it.
Original post by capitalismstinks

There isn't any evidence of a planned extermination. Not one shread.


Given that 'shread' isn't a word or a thing, yeah you're right. 'Not one shread'!
Original post by capitalismstinks
No one denies people died of disease and starvation in the camps. But, as this film inadvertently reveals, there was no planned extermination and certainly no gas chambers.


Yes there was.
Original post by capitalismstinks
You can go and visit concentration camps that were reclassified as death camps by allied propaganda, and you can hear witness testimony from inmates who clearly were not in death camps otherwise you wouldn't be hearing their testimoy.

The thing about the official narrative, is that it's so weak it's illegal to question it in many european nations. In the UK it's not technically illegal, but questioning it is worse than being accused of peadophilia.

The narrative we get today wasn't even invented until the 70s. For example, Winston Churchill himself wrote a multi volume series on WW2 and not once does he mention death camps, gas chambers or planned exterminations.


There were survivors who wre Sonderkommanda.

Where did 6 million jews disappear to?

What about the testimony of the people who worked in them?

Why did the nazis build gas proof shower rooms in many camps?

Why do you think it never happened?

Who do you think gained from creating a huge complex lie and had time to make up so much evidence?
Original post by MatureStudent36
There were survivors who wre Sonderkommanda.

Where did 6 million jews disappear to?

What about the testimony of the people who worked in them?

Why did the nazis build gas proof shower rooms in many camps?

Why do you think it never happened?

Who do you think gained from creating a huge complex lie and had time to make up so much evidence?


Roughly 6 million jewish people did die, as did 7 million non jewish people.

There is no testimony about planned exterminations.

They didn't build gas proof chambers. They built rooms which were used to delouse and sanitise inmates because parasites and lice were massive problems. Which is why they also shaved inmates heads. The soviets lied about what these chambers were when they liberated the camps. Basic wartime propanganda demonising the enemy. All prisoner of war camps, be they nazi, soviet or communist chinese etc had similar facilities.

I think 13 million died in nazi camps. But there was no planned extermination. They died almost exclusively of disease and starvation.

Who benefits? Maybe you should start with 'the holocaust industry' by Norman Finklestein, who parents were held in nazi camps.
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Original post by capitalismstinks


There is no testimony about planned exterminations.

They didn't build gas proof chambers. They built rooms which were used to delouse and sanitise inmates because parasites and lice were massive problems..


Zyklon-B kills mammals faster than it kills parasites. And yes there is testimony, Auschwitz was a multi-purpose camp, and a British POW Officer witnessed 500 Soviet POWs being murdered in the first use of the gas chambers..

There is a ****-load of evidence, you just can't be bothered looking for it
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Original post by capitalismstinks
Roughly 6 million jewish people did die, as did 7 million non jewish people.

There is no testimony about planned exterminations.

They didn't build gas proof chambers. They built rooms which were used to delouse and sanitise inmates because parasites and lice were massive problems. Which is why they also shaved inmates heads. The soviets lied about what these chambers were when they liberated the camps. Basic wartime propanganda demonising the enemy. All prisoner of war camps, be they nazi, soviet or communist chinese etc had similar facilities.

I think 13 million died in nazi camps. But there was no planned extermination. They died almost exclusively of disease and starvation.

Who benefits? Maybe you should start with 'the holocaust industry' by Norman Finklestein, who parents were held in nazi camps.


The wansee conference was about mass extermination.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference

There were gas chambers.

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/who-were-the-nazi-gas-chamber-engineers/

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