That may be the case, but it's still just a mask. You can't deal with the underlying self-esteem issues if you just get plastic surgery. Much more sustainable to get therapy or learn to accept that part of you.

Reply 24

SnooFnoo

Original post by s.a.u

Why is talking therapy more valid treatment for self esteem/specific insecurities than surgery? Some people's insecurities are totally eradicated with surgery. Surely that's the goal anyway?

Reply 25

s.a.u

Original post by SnooFnoo

Why is talking therapy more valid treatment for self esteem/specific insecurities than surgery? Some people's insecurities are totally eradicated with surgery. Surely that's the goal anyway?

It's probably rarely that simple. If they're that bothered about something that they'd go through surgery, there are probably deeper issues. What else could they dislike about their appearance next? And what if it's something that can't be 'fixed' with surgery?

Reply 26

SnooFnoo

Original post by s.a.u

Then talking therapy can be an option. But for the majority, and I promise i've spoken to literally hundreds of women it's a option (they don't take lightly) which changes their life completely and makes them 100% happy.

Reply 27

Maid Marian

I'd be sad that a friend of mine thought it necessary and were insecure about their breasts. Cosmetic surgery is lame.

Reply 28

Friar Chris

Original post by Maid Marian

I'd be sad that a friend of mine thought it necessary and were insecure about their breasts. Cosmetic surgery is lame.

God, could you imagine that - someone being irrationally insecure about their body? :rolleyes:

Reply 29

Maid Marian

Original post by Friar Chris

God, could you imagine that - someone being irrationally insecure about their body? :rolleyes:

Lots of people are insecure, but I am protesting against the use of cosmetic surgery because I was close to getting it myself once and I think it's entirely unnecessary for most people, do you disagree? :curious:

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Reply 30

SnooFnoo

I think everyone has the right to exorcise body autonomy

Reply 31

scorpion95

It would depend whether I thought that either friend/gf had nothing wrong before they had it done. As long as they didn't go ott with the size then it wouldn't bother me in the slightest it is their body they can do what they want with it. However if they did go ott then I would have to talk to them as to why they done that

Reply 32

Tilds1997

Original post by Maid Marian

Cosmetic surgery is lame.

How so?

Reply 33

Maid Marian

Original post by Tilds1997

How so?

I think it's sad that we feel the need to surgically alter ourselves. Regarding breasts, I'm an A cup which is way smaller than most, but it's just a thing you have to accept. :s-smilie:

Reply 34

SnooFnoo

Original post by Maid Marian

I think it's sad that we feel the need to surgically alter ourselves. Regarding breasts, I'm an A cup which is way smaller than most, but it's just a thing you have to accept. :s-smilie:

You don't have to accept it though. We have the medical advances to change our body to make ourselves more confident. So why shouldn't we use those advances?

If we should accept our flaws, we shouldn't wear make up either, or dye our hair etc

Reply 35

Friar Chris

Original post by SnooFnoo

. We have the medical advances to change our body to make ourselves more confident.

Surgically altering your anatomy doesn't provide more confidence. Confidence is a psychological entity, and if you feel bad because of your natural phenotype that's generally indicative of psychological disorder or perverted expectations of the human figure from societal influence.

There is also no such thing as surgery without risks. The risk of dying hair or putting on make-up is approximately 0, while risks and complications of breast surgery are numerous and yes, potentially fatal. Also, hair and make-up are not intrinsically anything to do with 'flaws'; nobody puts on make-up because they think that we ought to all be born wearing foundation and mascara; it's a perceived enhancement - a temporary and minimal risk one. If people want to 'enhance' their breasts, then fine, but to feel a need to change or to perceive their normal breasts as 'flawed' is unhealthy.

Also, with notable exceptions (esp. reconstruction) cosmetic surgery is also not 'medical'.

Reply 36

Maid Marian

Original post by Friar Chris

Could have an allergic reaction tho :holmes:

Reply 37

ChaoticButterfly

Original post by Friar Chris

*******s. If my left ear wasn't deformed that would be one less thing for me to have to worry about. Simple as.

Reply 38

Friar Chris

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

*******s. If my left ear wasn't deformed that would be one less thing for me to have to worry about. Simple as.

Not a valid comparison to normal breasts. You're attacking a straw man.

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Reply 39

SnooFnoo

Original post by Friar Chris

Not a valid comparison to normal breasts. You're attacking a straw man.

To some women having small/no breast is a deformity. We live in a society were beauty is not a luxury, it's a commodity. Just like men having big dick equates to masculinity, big breasts equates to femininity. So why should women accept small breasts when we have the option to change it?