The Arsenal Thread XXII

There's more to it than that.

Wrt RVP for instance. He got 1 medal from joining Utd. Had he stayed at Arsenal he may not have won anything but he would have gone down as a legend who would always have been greeted warmly at the Emirates. Could come and train with the team like Henry/Pires/Ljungberg do sometimes, may have even got a coaching role, and just generally have felt content that there was a club that he could always feel at home at. Now once he retires he'll be forgotten by all, just another good player with nowhere to lay his hat at all. Can guarantee the likes of Rosicky in years to come will be glad there is a club like Arsenal he can always call his home.

And even Fabregas, at Stamford Bridge after our game he was adamantly claiming that the Arsenal fans still loved him, it clearly bothered him to think that he basically had no club on this planet that truly loved him I think and that all the years he spent at AFC count for precisely nothing now. Football is surely emotions as well as medals, which may or may not materialise actually. And Cesc will feel pretty rotten I think sitting in the Emirates away dressing room.


Samir Nasri I have no problem with at all. Dont think he cares about that kind of thing, never pretended otherwise and that's fair enough really.

Did not know Brooklyn Beckham was signed to us.

anyone know much about him, what position he plays, if he's any good, chance of making it to the first team??

Standard Tottenham, attempt to bottle it then get the ex-Arsenal lad to put Christian "late goal" Eriksen in to scrape through

Can't say I mind much, whilst it would be good to see a league 1 side (I think?) in the final, I really don't want Chelsea to win and Sheffield United would never pose enough of a threat whereas Tottenham might (and either way, is the Capital One Cup relevant as a trophy any more?)

It's basically the same as the FA Cup. The only minor difference is slightly less prize money and one round earlier in EL qualification.

It's basically the same as the FA Cup. The only minor difference is slightly less prize money and one round earlier in EL qualification.

Except it isnt even close. There is hugely diminished interest from everyone from managers to fans(Wenger refused to waste first team players even in the 2007 final ). And the 'Capital One Cup' has absolute no historical prestige compared with the FA Cup, it literally only exists as a revenue spinner. I'll bet most football fans couldnt tell you a thing about 90% of the finals either. I cant even remember who played most finals in my lifetime. That's why the top clubs need to flog £10 tickets to get fans in the doors for games, it's a nonsense competition.


As I say, it is only Spurs and Liverpool fans who hype it up...

Load of bull****. You bottled a final against Birmingham City, I'm see you remember that one don't you absolute petty man you are, if you were in the final you'd be ****ting your pants with excitement the mighty Arsenal picking which cups are prestigious when they've won 1 in 9 years

Any honest person will concede these points:
-It makes no sense at all to have a second knockout competition.
-It was established purely to raise cash.
-The League cup, aka the Worthington Cup, aka the Carling Cup, aka the Capital One Cup is of absolutely no historical prestige whatsoever.
-The finals are instantly forgettable
-Most managers habitually treat it as an annoyance
-Fans need to be bribed at £10 a ticket to actually attend

I've made this arguement on here for yonks, every single season even before it starts. And as someone who attends literally almost every home league, FA Cup and CL game, I can count the number of league cup games Ive been to on one hand. And it costs a tenner. I also dont attend the Emirates Cup incidentally... If Arsenal won it and we actually went ape like Spurs do, I would be embarrassed to be a fan of the club.

And of what consequence is the 2011 final to my point? We certainly bottled the game, but what does that imply about the worth or the tournament?

Any honest person will concede these points:
-It makes no sense at all to have a second knockout competition.
-It was established purely to raise cash.
-The League cup, aka the Worthington Cup, aka the Carling Cup, aka the Capital One Cup is of absolutely no historical prestige whatsoever.
-The finals are instantly forgettable
-Most managers habitually treat it as an annoyance
-Fans need to be bribed at £10 a ticket to actually attend

Fair enough you can make the arguement that 'a trophy is a trophy' but that arguement conceals everything Ive said above.

Well considering Wenger played his first team throughout most of that tournament, it clearly wasn't an annoyance to him was it? It was obvious it meant a lot to the players as well because that game completely derailed their season. We were utter **** that year and Arsenal should have beaten us to the league, instead they fell apart and limped into 4th place.

It's 4th priority for all the top clubs but don't pretend that you wouldn't be delighted if Arsenal won it. A trophy is a trophy.

At the start of any season, I'd take either the League Cup or the FA Cup. Marginally in favour of winning the FA Cup but you guys make it out like the FA Cup is the holy grail.

We all know the reason they do this. Last year it became even bigger than the CL and PL combined