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Old (really really old) members on this thread! I see your 2 years and raise you 11...


All well alh as well. In Cordoba Spain at the moment on holiday from the cold snows!
Oh nice mA. What are you hoping to go into? Further academia or had enough?
Lol no not an actuary! Working for a large retailer HQ at the moment applying my general wisdom to drive future growth and profits! Just what I dreamt of doing as a child... :-(

Salam guys, I have a question relating to Nouman Ali Khan. I really enjoy his talks and lectures and particularly the illustrations. I think he's great for the youth however is his info enough? I feel like I'm missing out on things because he's mainly the person I listen to. Do you guys have any other suggestions of similar kind of people to listen to? Humorous and engaging?


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Wow, 11 years. I thought I was an oldie with my nearly 7 years.
Cool, I have never been to Spain! You're lucky, the UK is freezing. My brother and his wife are going to Gran Canaria in June.
I am just studying part time at the moment (Masters finishes in 2016) and a carer part time, was also working with the Civil Service part time, stopped now. I was thinking about PHD, but now I'm not too sure. Just thinking about careers and what I should do. it isn't easy deciding. Grad schemes are around 3 years; time I may not necessarily have due to career breaks etc lol. I've dabbled with some internships in both public and private sector, but I still don't know. Allah hu ahlam.
I remember we had a convo a few years ago about you becoming an actuary or something, I may be mistaken. Your job sounds kinda cool, are you happy? If not, move on, you're young and capable of so much masha Allah. Aakhirah is the limit

Assalaamu Alaikum! it's great to see old members back! I remember you also made the second Islamic Society thread: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showpost.php?p=20565888&postcount=1 awesome!

What are you trying to say... You don't like the new ones?

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Both great videos. JZK for sharing

Is it true that those beed necklace thing that Muslims use to make dhirk is bid'ah? The prophet sallallahu alayhi wasalam only used his fingers...

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Some scholars say that it is permissible to use the masbahah (prayer beads), but they say that it is preferable to do tasbeeh (count praises) on one’s fingers; others say that it is bid’ah (reprehensible innovation).

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Al-Shaykh Muhammad ibn Salih al-‘Uthaymeen (al-Liqa al-Maftooh, 3/30) was asked whether using the masbahah for tasbeeh is bid’ah, and his reply was: “It is better not to do tasbeeh with the masbahah, but it is not bid’ah, because there is a basis for it, which is the fact that some of the Sahabah (Companions) did tasbeeh with pebbles. But the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) taught us that tasbeeh with the fingers is better, as he said, ‘Count with the fingertips, for they will be made to speak.’ Doing tasbeeh with the masbahah is not haram (impermissible) or bid’ah, but it is better not to do it, because the one who does tasbeeh with the masbahah has shunned something better. Using the masbahah may also be contaminated with some element of showing off, because we see some people carrying masbahahs that contain a thousand beads, as if they are telling people, ‘Look at me, I do a thousand tasbeehs!’ Secondly, those who use the masbahah for tasbeeh are usually absent-minded and not focused, so you see them doing tasbeeh with the beads, but their gaze is wandering all over the place, which indicates that they are not really concentrating. It is better to do tasbeeh with one’s fingers, preferably using the right hand rather than the left, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) used to count his tasbeeh on his right hand. If a person counts his tasbeeh using both hands, there is nothing wrong with that, but it is better to use the right hand only.”

What do you mean he doesnt move?

I dont know if this is correct, but i read somewhere that allah moves to the lower heavens every day or something

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Peace be with you.

There is a division between sunni's and shia's about this. I do not want to for a minute even discuss the sunni shia differences - i want us to merely use logic.

So lets forget we are muslims for a moment. Even some christians and deists believe God can not move.

You see, for something to 'move' it needs to act within time - it is limited by time. How can Allah swt be limited by time, when he himself created time?

Time, space, etc are all creations by Allah swt, he can not exist within them - he exists outside of them.

To say Allah swt descends means you give him two coordinates X and Y. He goes from X and comes to Y. This means Allah swt before descending is in place X - which limits Allah swt to one location. Allah swt is the creator of space, of laws, of limitations , he himself is free of all of these.

Allah can move. He descends to the lowest heaven during the last part of the night in a way that befits his majesty.

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This is needless complication of the Simple Aqeedah of ahl al sunnah.

I don't want to get banned for debating on this thread. We'll continue on PM/VM.

Old (really really old) members on this thread! I see your 2 years and raise you 11...


All well alh as well. In Cordoba Spain at the moment on holiday from the cold snows!
Oh nice mA. What are you hoping to go into? Further academia or had enough?
Lol no not an actuary! Working for a large retailer HQ at the moment applying my general wisdom to drive future growth and profits! Just what I dreamt of doing as a child... :-(

Salam guys, I have a question relating to Nouman Ali Khan. I really enjoy his talks and lectures and particularly the illustrations. I think he's great for the youth however is his info enough? I feel like I'm missing out on things because he's mainly the person I listen to. Do you guys have any other suggestions of similar kind of people to listen to? Humorous and engaging?

In regards to the convo thing, sheikhs, scholars etc...would say that unnecessary chatting you must avoid. When I sent an email to Mufti Menk, this is what he told me. As for friends, well I wouldn't befriend a male sis, but I see where you are coming from. And of course we are here for you on the ISOC sis, are you feeling better btw?
JazakAllahu khayan for your opinion xx

Assalaamu Alaikum, I pray you're all in good health. My local Masjid does the Kutbah in Punjabi/Urdu, and not in English. I only understand every third or fourth word and find it hard to understand the full lesson. I really wished they did it in English so I could understand it! It's an English area too, in an English country! Is this a serious issue?

Usually when I come home I find an English Kutbah on youtube to sort of make up for it lol.

وَإِلَىٰ مَدْيَنَ أَخَاهُمْ شُعَيْبًا فَقَالَ يَا قَوْمِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ وَارْجُوا الْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَلَا تَعْثَوْا فِي الْأَرْضِ مُفْسِدِينَ

And to Madyan [We sent] their brother Shu'ayb, and he said, "O my people, worship Allah and expect the Last Day and do not commit abuse on the earth, spreading corruption."

Remember to stay away from abuse and oppression

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