American Football Talk II

Seattle made some curious decisions...really weird...Putting KJ Wright on Gronk is fine, but get him up to the line of scrimmage, and press him. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS SACRED, DON'T GIVE GRONK A FREE RELEASE...IT DOESN'T END WELL.

Bevell gets too cute. You have Lynch. You have one of the best run blocking lines in Football. Run three times more if you need to...the math favors the offense every single time. You could use your DTs as TEs, and another as a fullback, with an extra tackle. Trust Lynch. Trust Wilson as a great scrambler.

At the end, the Seahawks got really undisciplined. Rushing the victory formation was kind of bush league to be honest. I could see it, with Brady in the endzone, but after the 5 yard penalty, there was no need for Irvin to do what he did. Punching Gronk...wow...he has a death wish.

But they didn't execute at key times during the game either. The Patriots, just executed better, in all facets of the game. The late hit out of bounds, was a stupid move by ET3, and well, there was some very questionable decision making on the interception returns. I liked that Jeremy Lane wanted to fight for extra yards, but just get down... It's silly. I thought the key change after the half was that Wilson was using his legs more, and it showed...he just didn't do that in the first half, and it makes you wonder why...was it the coaching staff being too conservative to start the game?! IT'S THE SUPER BOWL. NO TIME FOR BEING CONSERVATIVE...GREATNESS AWAITS. The playcalling on the INT at the end was shocking, but at the end of the day, coach wants to trust his players to execute his plan, or to for his QB to change it if he sees something better...

I don't want to take away from the Patriots at all...it would have been hard to see them basically lose as a result of a fluke hail-mary...because they absolutely dominated the Seahawks. They executed better, they moved the chains...they got more yards...they played well.

I created this meme though...

Hi guys! Watched the superbowl yesterday, it was the first ever NFL game I've seen... Needless to say I found it pretty interesting and enjoyable to watch! Where can I watch some more? I know it's post-season but there's got to be somewhere where I can watch American Football to get me into it for the next 7 months or whatever it is before the next NFL season begins?

Thanks

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It was Bennett I think, and he might be able to take Gronk.. but still, dumb. It wasn't really a victory formation, the Pats 100% were going to run a play. They had a few interesting options but a sneak is the most obvious. I kind of wondered about a sweep to the outside, so that if you do give up a safety you can burn a few seconds. Voluntary safety is also an option because your win probability is very high, so you have to figure out how likely you are to fumble (WP very low), how likely you are to get stuffed and give up a safety (WP same) and how likely you are to get out of the end zone (WP ~100%) if you run a play. Obviously drawing the defense offside is the most perfect result possible. Belicheck is the best in the league at figuring out this utility in the heat of the moment so it would have been very interesting to see if they did take a knee.


Yeah I didn't like the play call at the end, but I honestly don't think that you can get mad at a coach for being over aggressive, and I usually kind of hate criticising playcalling anyway. Wilson made a bad decision to throw that ball, which should have gone through the uprights. He may have felt uncomfortable doing that because there needs to be a receiver "in the area" since he's in the pocket... and that makes it a bad play call.

Agree with this, also no way anyone except Brady was in the running for MVP. If Seattle had won you could make an argument for Matthews, or even a defensive player like Bennett or Wagner (unlikely). Brady spread the ball around pretty well so although Edelman was his #1, no way did he do enough to get MVP. Just no way. I'm usually the first one to say it's BS that they always give it to the winning QB, and I'm also usually the first one to point out that Brady has more flaws than most people seem willing to admit, but he was 100% MVP on Sunday.

Glad you liked the superbowl! It was a pretty good game.

Now that the season has finished, I usually go on youtube to watch some of the old college football games. It's not NFL, but there's some pretty good games.

I've watched 'Bama vs Texas A&M (2013), 'Bama vs Auburn (2013), 'Bama vs LSU (2014) (damn the pattern), and they are good games, but you can usually watch them in full. Last year's national championship (FSU vs Auburn) was pretty good, as was this year's Fiesta [Arizona vs Boise State], Cotton [Michigan State vs Baylor] and Outback bowls [Auburn vs Wisconsin]. College football is pretty good to watch...I dare say, I actually prefer college football to NFL football.

The condensed games are pretty good as well -- they're not highlights, they just take out the gaps between the plays, and the adverts and stuff, but I can't use GamePass in the States.

If you can, watch the scouting and veteran's combines, have a draft party and watch the draft, it's worth it. I know you'd have to stay up, but I had some nachos and watched it with my friend who's a Falcons fan, and he was so excited to see 'TRADE' come up because he thought it was them moving up for Barr, only to be disappointed when it was the Bills just choosing for Watkins, lol.

Thanks for the advice I'll have a look at some college games on youtube and I'll get the gamepass too, most likely. I'll try and watch the combines and the draft, too. I assume they'll be on Sky Sports or something, if not I'll probably be able to stream them on the internet

You're welcome. I did create a 'newbie' guide to football if you want to check it out, it could help.....One thing I will say is that knowledge is power. Football is such a multi-faceted sport, that the more you know and understand, the better and more enjoyable it becomes. It will take time to learn it...heck, there's still things I'm learning too, such as the Matthews hail-mary catch (which was a catch because the ball never hit the ground)...but understanding it more will help you. Penalties on the other hand...well, it can be pot luck.

If you can at some point, do go to a game. You have the Wembley games, although I'm not too sure how they are (yet....since I want to go to one of them this year), but going to Mile High was brilliant...just seeing NFL football in person...was brilliant.

I think they were on Sky Sports last year, but they might have also been on NFL Network, on the NFL page for the rounds 2-7. You can get a stream for NFL Network if it isn't on the main website, even without gamepass, but the gamepass gives you access to the NFL Network as well.

I just found the cheat sheet and the 101 guide thing, I'm guessing that's what you meant? The cheat sheet was pretty helpful, I had a quick look through it and it just helped me understand a few of the things I was unsure about but I am yet to tackle the text document as it looks like a lot of reading for this time of day but they both seem like great resources

As for going to see a game, the Wembley ones are pretty much sold out from what I can see for this year and there's the whole issue of money and getting there (4 hours drive from here at least) so I'll see, possibly next year. Who did you see at Mile High?

Thanks for all the advice and such, I'll rep tomorrow because I've already maxed today's limit

Yeah, I mean looking back, I don't necessarily think it's the wrong play call. My Coach pointed out it made sense, since a complete pass would have been the game, and an incomplete pass would have stopped the clock. The DB made a clutch play, and got his team the win. One of the ISU O-lineman, who I watched the Superbowl with, today pointed out that New England were in their goal line defense, and since Seattle were in their hurry up offense, they had 5 lineman, and one TE on the field...and the numbers didn't favor the Seahawks. You don't call a run with that personnel against that personnel.

Also, the WR gave up on the play and put his QB in trouble. The throw was on point, and at the worst would have been incomplete had the WR shown more effort.

If you can, watch the scouting and veteran's combines, have a draft party and watch the draft, it's worth it. I know you'd have to stay up, but I had some nachos and watched it with my friend who's a Falcons fan, and he was so excited to see 'TRADE' come up because he thought it was them moving up for Barr, only to be disappointed when it was the Bills just choosing for Watkins, lol.

I just found the cheat sheet and the 101 guide thing, I'm guessing that's what you meant? The cheat sheet was pretty helpful, I had a quick look through it and it just helped me understand a few of the things I was unsure about but I am yet to tackle the text document as it looks like a lot of reading for this time of day but they both seem like great resources

As for going to see a game, the Wembley ones are pretty much sold out from what I can see for this year and there's the whole issue of money and getting there (4 hours drive from here at least) so I'll see, possibly next year. Who did you see at Mile High?

Thanks for all the advice and such, I'll rep tomorrow because I've already maxed today's limit

There's no big deal because it wasn't even a victory formation

Unless you're talking about the victory formation they ran after the offside, I don't know because I didn't bother to watch that.

I disagree with this, I don't like the play call at all but ultimately it is only one play. If you look at the front you have 8 LOS defenders, 7 blockers plus Wilson, and a safety/LB lined up at linebacker depth. If you can put a hat on a hat and Wilson accounts for one defender then you have Lynch trying to make one yard after contact vs a free defender. Not ideal but still not a bad idea. I don't mind throwing it at all, but it should be a roll out pass or a bootleg where Wilson gets something like a high low read from the corner of the end zone to the keeper, and if he doesn't like either option he is outside the pocket and puts it into row Z.


I think it looked like he gave up on the play more than he actually did because the DB made such an outstanding play to bump the receiver off the ball with perfect timing to avoid PI while making the play on the ball. The play call was bad which kind of takes the attention away from that play but it really was one of the better picks of the entire year.

Dude, I love the draft! Literally one of my favourite bits of the entire footballing year.

I'm a Rams fan and it was awesome watching the results of the RGIII trade unfold. I was super excited about picking Donald as well, which turned out decent

The Draft is a small morsel of hope in the bleak midwinter that is the offseason. Bring it on!! I want to see the scouting combine, and then the veteran's combine new for this year...It'll be great.

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