What will our generation frown upon, that our grandchildren will find acceptable?

I don't believe you would; People sometimes decide against a certain career path because of the lack of pay. The system would encourage people to do what they job they would enjoy most, as all jobs would be reasonably well paid.

I didn't say that, I defiantly addressed this point earlier. Uhhh, one crucial aspect of Marxism is that if the public want something changing within government infrastructure, there is a vote on it (Marxism suggests an extension on current democracy), therefore if future generations were unhappy, there would be further implementation of democracy.

I think most people would admit Communism is a great idea in theory, but not practical in the current world we live in.

Well I'd disagree because you'd have a lot of people like me who don't know what they want to do so they'd take what was well paid. Your theory is just that without anything to back it up.

Regardless of my second point about younger generations can you not see how impractical it is to try and get everyone to suggest a figure for what every single different job role should earn and then count it up and work out an average? Organising one election is time consuming enough, this would be like having an election a day for a few years.

It's a nice idea for the poor a horrible idea for the wealthiest half of society


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Well I'd disagree because you'd have a lot of people like me who don't know what they want to do so they'd take what was well paid. Your theory is just that without anything to back it up.

Regardless of my second point about younger generations can you not see how impractical it is to try and get everyone to suggest a figure for what every single different job role should earn and then count it up and work out an average? Organising one election is time consuming enough, this would be like having an election a day for a few years.

It's a nice idea for the poor a horrible idea for the wealthiest half of society


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I can agree with what you're arguing to an extent, however there ARE people out there (maybe a small figure, I don't know) who decide not to do a fulfilling job as it means little pay, this system would to some extent eradicate that problem. Undoubtedly many would pursue higher paying jobs, but these jobs would be crucial ones to society for instance doctors or teachers so the high demand would be beneficial as the best of a large supply of labourers could be put in these crucial professions.

Firstly, as I said in an earlier post; wages wouldn't necessarily be decided for every job, but a formula of wages could be created based on what society thinks is deserving of a high paying job I.e. the more benefit to society the job has, the higher pay it should have and so on. This system would be inconvenient, that doesn't mean it couldn't, or shouldn't be done. It's inconvenient for society to develop at all, it's much easier to just leave it as it is, but people see societal development as more important than 'convenience'. Also, more efficient democratic processes could be made.

First, I'd say its more a nice idea for the 90% and a horrible one for the richest 10%. Also, people often overlook the other benefits of an idealist Marxist society: Less working hours, more time invested in hobbies and arts, encouragement to live a fulfilling life and not surrender to the 'rat race' etc. so in theory a Marxist society would benefit everyone ( NOT in monetary terms, but in 'fulfilment' etc.). At the moment people embrace capitalism because of the possible material and pecuniary benefits it gives them, however they don't consider overall happiness. Perhaps human nature will evolve to become less concerned about money and possessions and more concerned about fulfilment and equality, perhaps not.

To me what you suggest just sounds like a poorly knitted jumper; not very good with lots of holes in. I would much prefer a world where it is entirely possible for someone who starts off poor to become rich and vice versa, where there are several tiers of personal wealth, it's essentially social Darwinism


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I would rather be dead than see the next generations tbh. Put it this way, if I lived a 100 years ago and saw the current generation as it is today, I would want to die.

Good job you'd probably be at the front then...

I tend to round the cost of a taxi or haircut up, and I thought a 10% tip in a restaurant was customary - no?

We'll probably end up living in a society where you're considered a bigot for thinking beastiality and peadophilis are wrong, seems to be heading that way.

The system we have is certainly the most convenient I can think of. What we have is a watered down version of social Darwinism, which is fundamentally what we see in all species, therefore people argue it is the best system. However, why be content with a system that has such huge flaws and crippling inequalities; it is NOT feasibly possible for a kid born in rural Africa where they have no education, water, food etc. to become rich. Therefore it isn't survival of the fittest, but survival of those born in a developed country preferably with rich parents.

I'm not necessarily saying Marxism is the answer, what I'm arguing is don't be content with a system that is unfair because it fits into our convenience and our animal nature. We have an imperfect society, why settle for that? Why not strive for improving society?

We'll probably end up living in a society where you're considered a bigot for thinking beastiality and peadophilis are wrong, seems to be heading that way.

This. There will be a double standard shown towards bestiality in that animals consent implicitly by taking part in the act. Necrophilia will be accepted because corpses are just realistic sex dolls with no soul or senses. Incest will be accepted because people are lazy and their brother/sister/father/mother are just "there". Paedophillia might take a little longer, but Gawker are working on it.

We must not judge! We are all equal!

This is all against the better judgement of every generation that came before us. We are slowly becoming less and less civil.

I suppose the first step in this descent towards chaos was the acceptance of homosexuality

Why are you under the ludicrous impression that previous generations were more civilized than us?

Fortunately, minds like yours are an endangered kind, that will soon be eradicated due the prevalence of an increasingly. educated population.

Feudalism ticks the box, as do others that pre-dated capitalism. In the days of feudalism, capitalism wasn't even a concept, how can you discount the idea that there is another system we don't yet know of that we would move to?

It's already been done...because of the Russia, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese and Cuban revolutions.

History isn't linear, or the same for all countries. In fact, that is quite the idea of Marxist history, especially with the idea that the entire human history can be divided up into four epochs (Ancient, Fuedal, Capitalistic, Socialistic)

The idea of changes in the methods of production were brought about due to changes in relations of production and due to productive forces to move from one of the four epochs, bringing about new ruling classes) is not a new one.

Marxist history was fundamentally compromised by the fall of the USSR, to a point where it doesn't work.