Nicola Sturgeon says the SNP will vote on English laws

Scotland want to continue voting on English-only matters because they are predominantly more progressive than we are. This has nothing to do with knock-on effects- this is Labour wanting to maintain their foothold on British politics (which they are failing).

Suits my agenda perfectly...the greater the divide in any aspect of Scotland and England the better. I'm all for english devolution, english votes for english laws etc...but for as long as the SNP can vote on matters then they should do just that. It will speed up english votes for english laws if anything.

Independence by the back door. For both countries.

Scotland want to continue voting on English-only matters because they are predominantly more progressive than we are. This has nothing to do with knock-on effects- this is Labour wanting to maintain their foothold on British politics (which they are failing).

Well no more so than votes on specific English laws would have on Scottish Funding surely?

No change in plan. Just wondering why the snp have done a huge U turn and said they'll start voting in devolved issues.....amazingly, the majority of their rather vocal moaning seems to be about devolved issues.

Because it makes sense probably.

How many times does this have to be spelled out?

The block grant given to the Scottish government is a percentage of the total spending decided on at Westminster. If WM votes to increase English NHS spending, the Scottish block grant increases. If WM votes to decrease NHS spending, the Scottish block grant decreases.

The Scottish government decides how to spend the block grant it receives, therefore this has no effect on England.

So in what sense is that an English law if it's westminster voting on TOTAL spending for the UK?

No it doesn't.

It highlights how dumb a lot of snp supporters are getting upset over issues that the snp already control

It doesn't make sense for SNP MPs elected to the UK parliament to vote on issues which effect Scotland? Do you even think before you type this garbage?

Health is a devolved issue.

Eh… yes. Yes it is. What's your point?

Why has the snp suddenly decided to vote on health issues in westminster?

They've said they will vote on any issue which has a knock on effect on Scotland.

Because of the way the funding of the block grant works, funding issues in Westminster concerning devolved matters do have an effect on the Scottish block grant. I'm not really sure how that can be made much clearer.

So the SNP will not vote on purely administrative issues concerning the NHS in England but, for example, if there was a vote in the commons on whether to increases privatisation of the NHS in England, the SNP have said they will vote on this because it will affect the Scottish Parliament's funding.

If you want my own opinion about why they've made this decision now, I'd say it's the correct decision and if they weren't doing it before, that was a mistake, which they are now correcting.

From a purely political angle it also makes sense. If the SNP do as well as the polls are predicting, they could well hold the balance of power on westminster. It puts them in a much stronger position if they widen the range of issues they are willing to vote on.

You're obviously annoyed that this is a possibility but raging about something which makes complete logical sense, they are entirely entitled to do and every other party has been doing for 16 years, seems more than a little deranged.

I'm not annoyed with anything.

I'm just convene nes that the snp isn't abiding by it's pledge to acknowledge the referendum result and continues to protest wedge politics.
Did we find out why nhs scotland never matched nhs England and wales's spending increase and we're
Lagging behind?

The SNP have obviously acknowledged and accepted the result. That doesn't mean they won't keep arguing for independence and more powers for Scotland. Only a complete lunatic would think they wouldn't or shouldn't.

As for the health spending question. I'm not entirely sure of the most recent figures you seem to be referring to. Do you have a link?

A quick google shows that UK health spending is at 18% and Scotland is at 17.3%. Although per head, I'd guess that puts Scotland ahead due to higher public spending per person.

Either way, the simple answer would be that the Scottish government has chosen to distribute spending differently. It's farcical to imagine the SG would match the relative spending of WM on all devolved matters or else what would the point of the SG be?

I've still yet to understand the purpose of Holyrood myself other than create a significant amount of non jobs

Or even how it works apparently.