Any guys identify as feminists on here?

We have no such freedom then. Those countries will grow organically on their own; we're not here to support other continents of people.

Do we also have a murder culture? What about a theft culture?

She means that because Africa needs feminism, the West should also need it... Even though we don't need it, Africa needs it, even though it didn't benefit the West... We need it more because Africa needs it. I don't see advocates for feminism in those countries, but plenty in the West lobbying for feminist policies within our own borders, none of which support Africa or other non-feminist countries.

... I think that's what she means.

I know, that's why I said I know it will never change. But rape culture is influenced by "what a woman is wearing". So we can't feel safe wearing a low cut top if we're walking home at night and that's just disgusting. The fact that people would blame what you're wearing is just truly weird. You wouldn't blame the victim of murder, but there is so much victim blame in rape.

I'm not a feminist; I'm a gender equalist.

No, but I am an egalitarian.

Feminism is equality of both genders.

It is estimated that between 60,000-95,000 people are raped per year in the UK alone. I would say that's more than a few bad eggs.

It is estimated that between 60,000-95,000 people are raped per year in the UK alone. I would say that's more than a few bad eggs.

"feminism" is a "dirty word" to many people, because it should be - the name itself in a modern western context puts emphasis on women and not "gender". we don't call racial egalitarians "blackists", do we? why do we call gender-egalitarians "feminists", then? it's literally that stupid - something's got to change, because the term itself is sexist.



in 2015, when men and women are, by law, equals, what left could "feminism" do other than make women superior? oh yeah, that's exactly the plan for most of them today - if their fundamental narrative behind their movement (other than equality) is the belief in patriarchy, which is the doctrine that men are controlling them, how can they exact to be taken seriously with an ideology which promotes the value that men are oppressing them? that's such a sexist concept and I'm amazed that it's allowed to exist so openly without scrutiny.

feminists - you guys (women) aren't unequal, so stop pretending to be, because you're making girls think you guys are necessary - it's like snake oil. it's a lie based upon a scam.

We don't have a rape culture. A rape culture suggests that it is socially acceptable to rape someone which could not be further from the truth.

Why is it when a man gets accused of rape he has his name tarnished for life? If it were acceptable this would not be the case.

In fact rape is deemed more serious than murder by the majority of society.

We don't have a rape culture. We just have a few bad eggs.

Why is it that more women are raped in the summer, when they're wearing shorts? Because these bad eggs think women are asking for it because they're showing their flipping legs! Maybe they just have messed up minds, or maybe it's a societal issue. I don't know. But it needs to change.

I only made an account on here a few days ago and I'm a bit shocked at how some guys just seem so sexist. It seems so subtle and common on here, sometimes not so subtle with one forum I read being called something like "what is wrong with girls". It's actually kind of upset me a bit, I had more faith in our generation.

No these bad eggs are simply just bad people. How do you know what they were thinking?

How do you suppose it can be changed?

Ok. Rant over. Hahaha. Sorry about this. I'm a passionate person.

What about the thousands of people who were afraid to speak out? Just because those cases were reported doesn't make your Awnser right.

A lot of people do believe that girls are "asking for it" if they're wearing anything slightly revealing. I don't think that all guys think like that at all. I really don't think that. But these "bad eggs" clearly do. I feel that boys should be brought up being taught respect for women. And that just because a woman might be wearing something revealing doesn't make her a "slut". Hopefully most mothers tell their sons this anyway. But it should just be talked about, as I am doing now. As teachers could talk to pupils.

"and the name stuck"
so what? it's very out of date now, right? why not think long-term and not short-term? surely long-termism is more rational for the human race than short-termism? if we're going to focus on BOTH genders equally (becaus they both have problems) then why are we terming this movement feminism? if you can call it feminism, would that mean I could call it masculinism? do you think I'd be taken seriously? the reason I won't be taken seriously is the same reason I don't take people who use the term "feminism" to reer to gender equality seriously.

It's really okay to not call yourself a feminist because you don't agree with the name. But if you agree with gender equality, then why bash feminism? Perhaps the name should be changed. But there's bigger issues to deal with, and it just feels like some men pretend to be against the name when really they're against the cause.


...if your reason for not wearing makeup (don't worry, it's just an observation) is ideological/political then I have appeared to have forgotten another qualification to my previous list. because, again, there are a plethora of girls/women who don't wear make up for "feministic" reasons

I do wear makeup! I just wasn't that day. Only really wear it if I can be bothered. I was just going on a bike ride by myself that day, so I thought may as well have a fresh face :-)

you're a "liberal feminist" then, aka "normal" - the term "feminist", in *that* sense, is obsolete today. so why use it? we're all equal, aren't we? it's like saying "I'm not racist" in a social context where being racist is both almost non-existent and universally frowned upon. it, as a term today, just implies that you don't believe men and women are equal yet in which case if you're talking about women being legally better-treated than men, then I'd agree. otherwise, not.

I don't believe that men and women are equal worldwide. I'm not sure about here. I definitely feel equal, but I don't really know how it is for other females in the UK.

okay then, what are you fighting for? presumably nothing at all if we're equal, right?

I'm not really fighting for anything. Just simply stating that I believe men and women should be equal worldwide.

firstly, sure, there are sexists everywhere, male and female. that's not ever going to change because there will always be stupid people in society. and what is a movement for "gender equality" going to say about trans-people? I don't think it has anything to do with them. and the fact that you're apologising seems only be trying to portray me as the bad guy - I'm only questioing the fact that feminism today is either obsolete or negative (in the radical form) - do you think gender egalitarians/individualists have it wrong or are less legitimate as a group when compared to feminists?

Ok then, assuming there are 60,000 cases a year that it still only 0.0009% of the population. Still a tiny amount.



I don't know anyone who wasn't taught to respect women. Do you still believe we have a rape culture?

There still isn't full equality in the UK and in the West.


Women are still denied abortions in Ireland. This has left many to die in agony from complications, or forced to travel to the UK for a procedure that should be a basic right - and before anyone says 'Oh blah blah sluts using it as contraception', I'm also talking women who need an abortion for a medical reason.

It's fine for a newspaper to splash pictures of boobs all over the third page, but wouldn't have been fine for me to breastfeed my daughter in a cafe.

Ched Evans. Regardless of whether you think he is guilty or innocent, a man is convicted of rape, and after less than three years in prison, is deemed to have 'served his time', and freed to encourage his family, friends and fans to hound his victim into hiding. He isn't arrested for harrassment - he's continuously excused for it.

On a more trivial, but still meaningful, matter - it's starting from such a young age, with some of the world's biggest corporations. It's difficult to find any Big Hero Six merch featuring the female main characters, either on their own or alongside the men. Same for Power Rangers, Fireman Sam etc. Kids don't see male or female, they want something with all the characters on - but we're presumed to believe that women don't belong as superheroes and firefighters. It's a man's job. Similarly, little boys can't get anything with Peppa Pig on, or Frozen - it's unfair on both sides, and there's absolutely no good reason for it.


Until these issues and more are fixed, we can't really call ourselves egalitarians. An egalitarian aim would be to maintain the balance of equality - feminists need to create that equality, before we can maintain it. If you see areas in which men are discriminated against, there is nothing stopping you from starting your own movement to try and correct it, but why should feminists fight your battles too?

You can't assume that everyone has been taught to respect women, because some people still don't. And some people don't have good parents that will teach them right and wrong.