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Question regarding doing A levels to switch uni.

I hold an unconditional offer to study English next year in London.


I feel I regret not doing Science subjects at A level, since that is where my interests lay in GCSE. Especially in Aerospace. If I fully apply myself, is it in the realm of possibility to drop out and apply for Aeronautical Engineering?


Would it be possible for me to privately take AS Maths, and AS Physics Edexcel in June, and work solidly over these next 2 months. (I did Maths Studies at IB, but could have done Maths SL), then Take Maths A2, Physics A2, Maths A2 and further maths AS at the end of my first year doing English?

If I got A*s, I'd start English Year 2 and do Further Maths A2 and maybe Computing AS over the year and drop out if I got an offer. If I got 3 A*s, do you think I (I'd be 21 at the time of application and 22 when I'd start the course.) Imperial would look at my application knowing I was dropping out of an English degree but had the relevant A levels. I'd also be doing relevant work experience in holidays.

If I got an offer, I'd drop out, pay off my 2nd year on direct debit, and use my remaining 4 years of SAAS to do the Aeronautical Engineering course.


Is this possible, or would Imperial look at my academic past and age, and think I was not fit for the program?

The retakes should be possible right? I have found private centres near where I live in Scotland (Merchiston) for the Maths AS and Physics AS, and I would do the rest in London while doing English at uni.


I managed to get through C1 in a couple of days and am doing M1 and C2 currently to see if I'm capable. If I managed to do M1 and C2 in a week, then I'd move on to Phyics Unit 1 and then U2 and the case study.

I would appreciate someone who knew Imperial well to advise me or tell whether or not it is feasible.





EDIT: My long term aspirations would be doing a masters in Advanced Aeronautics, and specialising in a field like Fluid Dynamics or maybe Structures, both areas I have read into as a layman. I am inspired a lot by companies like Space X, who (while I would never be able to work for as a non American- citizen) I find incredible and enjoy the idea of working with CAD to design and help develop incredible things. I believe if I apply myself, I am capable. I got a 40 at IB before taking a year out and I have discovered my enjoyment of engineering related fields through reading and experience).
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Original post by throwaway1995
I hold an unconditional offer to study English next year in London.


I feel I regret not doing Science subjects at A level, since that is where my interests lay in GCSE. Especially in Aerospace. If I fully apply myself, is it in the realm of possibility to drop out and apply for Aeronautical Engineering?


Would it be possible for me to privately take AS Maths, and AS Further Maths Edexcel in June, and work solidly over these next 2 months. (I did Maths Studies at IB, but could have done Maths SL), then Take AS Physics through CIE while at uni in November, then Take Maths A2, Further Maths A2 at the end of my first year doing English?

If I got A*s, I'd start English Year 2 and do Physics A2 in November through CIE. I'd also apply to Imperial. If I got 3 A*s, do you think I (I'd be 21 at the time of application and 22 when I'd start the course.) Imperial would look at my application knowing I was dropping out of an English degree but had the relevant A levels. I'd also be doing relevant work experience in holidays.

If I got an offer, I'd drop out, pay off my 2nd year on direct debit, and use my remaining 4 years of SAAS to do the Aeronautical Engineering course.


Is this possible, or would Imperial look at my academic past and age, and think I was not fit for the program?

The retakes should be possible right? I have found private centres near where I live in Scotland (Merchiston) for the Maths AS and FM AS, and I would do the rest in London while doing English at uni.


I managed to get through C1 in a couple of days and am doing M1 and C2 currently to see if I'm capable. If I managed to do M1 and C2 in a week, then I'd move on to FM1, M2, and D1 as FM AS modules. I've done a bit of FM1 already; complex numbers, and didn't find it all that hard to grasp.


I would appreciate someone who knew Imperial well to advise me or tell whether or not it is feasible.





EDIT: My long term aspirations would be doing a masters in Advanced Aeronautics, and specialising in a field like Fluid Dynamics or maybe Structures, both areas I have read into as a layman. I am inspired a lot by companies like Space X, who (while I would never be able to work for as a non American- citizen) I find incredible and enjoy the idea of working with CAD to design and help develop incredible things. I believe if I apply myself, I am capable. I got a 40 at IB before taking a year out and I have discovered my enjoyment of engineering related fields through reading and experience).

You'd be better off applying/changing to an engineering course with a foundation year - these are specifically designed for people with the wrong A level subjects and cover the content you specifically need to know from maths and sciences in order to take an engineering degree.

You should be able to get funding through SAAS for all years of a degree with a foundation year.
Original post by PQ
You'd be better off applying/changing to an engineering course with a foundation year - these are specifically designed for people with the wrong A level subjects and cover the content you specifically need to know from maths and sciences in order to take an engineering degree.

You should be able to get funding through SAAS for all years of a degree with a foundation year.




All the courses with these paths all seem to be at pretty ****ty universities (in London, which is where I'd need to be for non-Academic reasons).



Another huge passion of mine is Arabic, but I am worried sinking time into learning Arabic whilst doing my English degree (which I still love) would yield a poor financial future. I am very concerned about the financial future of non-STEM fields.
Original post by throwaway1995
All the courses with these paths all seem to be at pretty ****ty universities (in London, which is where I'd need to be for non-Academic reasons).



Another huge passion of mine is Arabic, but I am worried sinking time into learning Arabic whilst doing my English degree (which I still love) would yield a poor financial future. I am very concerned about the financial future of non-STEM fields.


It might be worth getting in touch with Imperial and ask if they'll recommend a foundation year at a different London university for someone in your position. It may well be that they can recommend a route you hadn't considered. Either way I can guarantee they they wont recommend you try to study A levels alongside another degree...

TBH within the traditional unis in London there is only Imperial and QMUL that offer Aero Engineering anyway - and QMUL offer a foundation year: http://www.sefp.qmul.ac.uk/home/index.html

Courses at places like Brunel (http://www.brunel.ac.uk/courses/undergraduate/aerospace-engineering-meng ) have an excellent reputation with employers - and even offer an optional work placement year which is even better to helping make sure you get into the career you want when you graduate.

Almost all universities will offer either subsidised or free language learning as an optional extra alongside your degree - so there's nothing to stop you pursuing arabic.

I would STRONGLY recommend that you don't start a course in the Autumn with the intention to drop out after a year or so - while a lot of students get to university and realise they've made a mistake and find their way to the right uni/course....actually going in with the intention to not complete the course is never going to end well.
Original post by PQ
It might be worth getting in touch with Imperial and ask if they'll recommend a foundation year at a different London university for someone in your position. It may well be that they can recommend a route you hadn't considered. Either way I can guarantee they they wont recommend you try to study A levels alongside another degree...

TBH within the traditional unis in London there is only Imperial and QMUL that offer Aero Engineering anyway - and QMUL offer a foundation year: http://www.sefp.qmul.ac.uk/home/index.html

Courses at places like Brunel (http://www.brunel.ac.uk/courses/undergraduate/aerospace-engineering-meng ) have an excellent reputation with employers - and even offer an optional work placement year which is even better to helping make sure you get into the career you want when you graduate.

Almost all universities will offer either subsidised or free language learning as an optional extra alongside your degree - so there's nothing to stop you pursuing arabic.

I would STRONGLY recommend that you don't start a course in the Autumn with the intention to drop out after a year or so - while a lot of students get to university and realise they've made a mistake and find their way to the right uni/course....actually going in with the intention to not complete the course is never going to end well.



The thing is, I don't even know if I want to drop out. My longstanding dream was to work in the BBC or a TV prod company, and most my work experience and skills relate to that.

I am just terrified of these jobs not existing in my life time or at least being very poorly paying. Money isn't a huge object for me, but I want to be able to travel and live a relatively nice lifestyle.


I am very interested in Engineering and the aerospace industry, but I am unsure if it is a passion or just an interest I am attempting to be passionate about as a result of said interest and fear of employability.


Thanks for your advice. Very confused, need some reassurance in one direction or the other.
Original post by throwaway1995
The thing is, I don't even know if I want to drop out. My longstanding dream was to work in the BBC or a TV prod company, and most my work experience and skills relate to that.

I am just terrified of these jobs not existing in my life time or at least being very poorly paying. Money isn't a huge object for me, but I want to be able to travel and live a relatively nice lifestyle.


I am very interested in Engineering and the aerospace industry, but I am unsure if it is a passion or just an interest I am attempting to be passionate about as a result of said interest and fear of employability.


Thanks for your advice. Very confused, need some reassurance in one direction or the other.


Where is it that you have a place to study English? Have you tried getting in touch with them to ask about the employment of previous graduates of the course? (there are broad stats available on the unistats website but any uni will be able to give you more details like whether any of their grads have recently gone to work in those sectors - they might even be willing to put you in contact with those graduates or with current students who are working towards a similar career goal).

You do sound very confused - I'd suggest getting in touch with Imperial - the worst they could say is "no we would never consider an applicant who didn't take the right subjects in sixth form" (unlikely but then at least you'd have a nice clear answer :wink:).

It might also be worth getting in touch with this lot: http://search.arts.ac.uk/s/search.html?collection=courses&query=&profile=_default&f.College%7CC=London+College+of+Communication&f.Course+level%7Cl=Undergraduate the LCC has a lot of very good industry contacts - if you know that's the career you want to go down (but are worried about finding your way in) then that might be a better route than a generic English degree at a "good" university.
Original post by PQ
Where is it that you have a place to study English? Have you tried getting in touch with them to ask about the employment of previous graduates of the course? (there are broad stats available on the unistats website but any uni will be able to give you more details like whether any of their grads have recently gone to work in those sectors - they might even be willing to put you in contact with those graduates or with current students who are working towards a similar career goal).

You do sound very confused - I'd suggest getting in touch with Imperial - the worst they could say is "no we would never consider an applicant who didn't take the right subjects in sixth form" (unlikely but then at least you'd have a nice clear answer :wink:).

It might also be worth getting in touch with this lot: http://search.arts.ac.uk/s/search.html?collection=courses&query=&profile=_default&f.College%7CC=London+College+of+Communication&f.Course+level%7Cl=Undergraduate the LCC has a lot of very good industry contacts - if you know that's the career you want to go down (but are worried about finding your way in) then that might be a better route than a generic English degree at a "good" university.



KCL.
I shall check the UAL page out. I do enjoy English. Would English + relevant work experience be of use for employment?
Original post by throwaway1995

I am very interested in Engineering and the aerospace industry, but I am unsure if it is a passion or just an interest I am attempting to be passionate about as a result of said interest and fear of employability.


I'm just coming to the end of my MEng degree in aeronautical engineering (FINALLY). If you want to do it your heart and soul needs to be in it - an aerospace engineering degree is not a joke, it's incredibly tough in terms of difficulty and work load. You really have to be sure it's what you want to do. If your not set on it you will probably find it hard getting the motivation required for this course.
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Original post by hitchslap1
I'm just coming to the end of my MEng degree in aeronautical engineering (FINALLY). If you want to do it your heart and soul needs to be in it - an aerospace engineering degree is not a joke, it's incredibly tough in terms of difficulty and work load. You really have to be sure it's what you want to do. If your not set on it you will probably find it hard getting the motivation required for this course.


Where did you go? What do you plan to do now?


What is the general workload like? How much free time do you have and is most of your work mathematically based?
Original post by throwaway1995
Where did you go? What do you plan to do now?


What is the general workload like? How much free time do you have and is most of your work mathematically based?


I'm at Bristol uni - I've landed a job in Europe working in the space industry. Lots of people have also gotten jobs at companies like Rolls-Royce, Airbus, Atkins,BAE systems, Cobham, MBDA, Jaguar-Landrover, BMW etc. Others have gotten into finance, consulting, banking. A degree in aerospace engineering definitely sets you up for a lot job opportunities.

Work load is insane...free time is nothing compared to other degrees...and yes 90% of the work is maths based. You have tons of coursework in this course so you can't just slack during the term and then work your ass off towards exams.
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