Rights of the father.

The Father should have a right to "walk away" emotionally but I feel child support is necessary unless the Mother earns a decent wage and can comfortably afford to raise the child "properly".

The issue many men have with child support is that often, the money the Father gives is not used on things for the child. I don't think many Fathers would have a problem giving money solely to their child, it's when their ex-partner is using the money to buy handbags, shoes and fund nights out (end cliche).

In addition, if the Mother receives a large amount of child support, she may quit working as she doesn't need to, costing the tax payer money.

In summary, I support compulsory child support, as long as the money is used solely on the child and the amount is "realistic" for the Father being able to afford.

It is simple, wear condom.

Condoms which are 85% effective as means of contraception.

Actually the correct figure is 98% if used correctly.

In my view the solution is simple. When a woman becomes pregnant she tells the father and he then decides how he feels about it, if he wants the baby and so does the woman then happy days. If she doesn't but he does then she can abort the baby because there really isn't a way of legally giving a man a vote on that. If she wants the baby but he doesn't then he should be perfectly at liberty to tell her and walk away and have no involvement in the child's life; the woman can decide from there whether to keep it or not.

This seems the only fair system because as it stands women hold all the cards when it comes to having children


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No proposal is going to be completely fair simply because biological differences ARE there and there isn't much we can do about them, but to my mind this is the fairest proposal we can come up with.

The problem lies a great deal with the fact that when it comes to sex we seem to view it as something a man does to a woman. We don't view women as active participants in it, which is shown in the way people word themselves in things like this "he got me pregnant", the woman didn't really have much to do with the whole thing, she may not have even been in the room when it happened.

In my view the solution is simple. When a woman becomes pregnant she tells the father and he then decides how he feels about it, if he wants the baby and so does the woman then happy days. If she doesn't but he does then she can abort the baby because there really isn't a way of legally giving a man a vote on that. If she wants the baby but he doesn't then he should be perfectly at liberty to tell her and walk away and have no involvement in the child's life; the woman can decide from there whether to keep it or not.

This seems the only fair system because as it stands women hold all the cards when it comes to having children


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Wear a condom or ..... just don't have sex.

Why is the burden on the man?


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Who says the Burden is on the man?

The burden of the child is on both of you since both of you have to have sex.

It is a complete lie to suggest that women hold all of the cards.

By saying to him well if you don't want a baby wear a condom you're putting the burden on him. If you spun that around you'd essentially justify banning abortion.

How is it fair that we have a system whereby a woman can opt out of having a child by having an abortion but a man has no choice?

From the moment a woman becomes pregnant she has full control that's undeniable.
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Well, we are talking about men.

If a woman was talking about getting out their responsibilities as a parent then I would say that they should be on the Pill or etc.

A man has a choice. He can choose not have sex or wear contraception. This seems to be something that you want to ignore.

Abortion has nothing to do with a man. Woman don't have to carry out a pregnancy if they do not wish since Pregnancy can kill them.

How could u practically enforce mens rights over a pregnancy?

I agree it seems unfair that a man is "at the mercy" of the women who he has got pregnant. There is not much room for compromise, you cant have half an abortion!

The only workable system is the one we have, where its a woman's decision only. There is no perfect solution.

I suggest you read my earlier post where I said that the decision to have an abortion can only be made by a woman but a way to give men an equal right in the decision to have a child is to give them the option of removing themselves from the child's life


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Are yes lots and lots of fatherless kids in poverty - that's the perfect solution!

On a more serious note: (hypothetically) Guys out there, is it really so bad having to support your own child?
Yes it would have been best to plan it, but if you are going to feel good about throwing money at anyone, surely your own child would be worthy?

But then if the child grows up in poverty it's the fault of the mother. She would have been made aware that she was going to have to fund the child by herself and continued with the pregnancy anyway.

Why should a man be forced into the burden of a child when a woman isn't?


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Yes I'm aware those are options, what you're ignoring is that post conception the woman is the only one with the power to get out of pregnancy, a man is at her mercy.

What a ridiculous thing to say, you risk dying every day
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