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Original post by swagmaster420
But brother what evil would one encounter in Pakistan? Sure the country's undeveloped, but does it really matter if one has faith? Everything else will leave us, our lord will only ask about our faith in the end. Surely we belong to Allah and to Him we will return.
Pakistan does have issues of corruption but your average Joe can stay out of that, and my future kids knowing about corruption (just money basically) is better than all the glorification of sex, drugs and other sins. One thing that ESPECIALLY infuriates me is this love of homosexuals and transgenders. "It's just natural!" they say. So is murder!


There are many problems in Pakistan - ranging from the dishonesty in food production and the use of immoral methods, to the abuse of dead bodies for monetary gain, to the practice of sihr, to the corruption at almost every point in the governmental system, to the indecency of some, to the 'modernist' approach of some, to the blind emphasis on materialism (see TV), etc.

Yes, it is a 'Muslim country'. Yes, there are learned people of calibre there. Yes, there are religious Muslims there. But it still has many problems because of ignorance, lack of education (religious and secular), corruption, loss of religious practice at the hands of secularism, and so on.

I don't think it is realistically possible to stay out of corruption in one's lifetime in that country - this encompasses both receiving money and giving it.

Original post by R£SP£CT
Alhamdulilah. No qualms there. TSR bay'ah? :tongue:


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Original post by swagmaster420
But brother what evil would one encounter in Pakistan? Sure the country's undeveloped, but does it really matter if one has faith? Everything else will leave us, our lord will only ask about our faith in the end. Surely we belong to Allah and to Him we will return.
Pakistan does have issues of corruption but your average Joe can stay out of that, and my future kids knowing about corruption (just money basically) is better than all the glorification of sex, drugs and other sins. One thing that ESPECIALLY infuriates me is this love of homosexuals and transgenders. "It's just natural!" they say. So is murder!


Bro. I've personally seen drunk people walking the streets of Pakistam at night. The existence of brothels is common knowledge amongst people. I've even seen boys show next to no fear of openly harassing girls in streets on two separate occasions. Pakistan is plagued by deviant practices, many of which are pretty much shirk. It's an Islamic Republic in name, not so much in practice.

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Original post by ash92:)
There are many problems in Pakistan - ranging from the dishonesty in food production and the use of immoral methods, to the abuse of dead bodies for monetary gain, to the practice of sihr, to the corruption at almost every point in the governmental system, to the indecency of some, to the 'modernist' approach of some, to the blind emphasis on materialism (see TV), etc.

Yes, it is a 'Muslim country'. Yes, there are learned people of calibre there. Yes, there are religious Muslims there. But it still has many problems because of ignorance, lack of education (religious and secular), corruption, loss of religious practice at the hands of secularism, and so on.

I don't think it is realistically possible to stay out of corruption in one's lifetime in that country - this encompasses both receiving money and giving it.



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But what's worse, corruption/bribery or sex, nudity, pornography, drug use?
Original post by swagmaster420
But what's worse, corruption/bribery or sex, nudity, pornography, drug use?


But we aren't pitting any one sin against any one other. Nor am I saying that one place is better than the other. I'm just showing that in reality, the gap is smaller than seemed apparent from your post, brother. Furthermore, the examples weren't an exhaustive list. They also have things like rape, acid attacks, etc.
Original post by ash92:)
But we aren't pitting any one sin against any one other. Nor am I saying that one place is better than the other. I'm just showing that in reality, the gap is smaller than seemed apparent from your post, brother. Furthermore, the examples weren't an exhaustive list. They also have things like rape, acid attacks, etc.

Hmm yeah that is true. Just goes to show this world is far from perfect. May Allah grant us Jannah inshallah. Jazakallah everyone. Apologies to any who were offended by me. Goodnight,
Original post by swagmaster420
Hmm yeah that is true. Just goes to show this world is far from perfect. May Allah grant us Jannah inshallah. Jazakallah everyone. Apologies to any who were offended by me. Goodnight,


Ameen
Subhanallah

I just got my first ever 75/75 maths mark in c2 :biggrin::smug:

Insha'allah i'll batter the real exam up just like i did with this past paper :yes:
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Original post by Ibn Fulaan
Maybe.


Its the chandelier that dangles from the dome at Regents park Mosque
Original post by Iqbal007
Its the chandelier that dangles from the dome at Regents park Mosque


Thought so.
Ramadan is a time where we must control our desires (nafs) aswell as our tongues:

Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: “Fasting is not (abstaining) from eating and drinking only, but also from vain speech and foul language. If one of you is being cursed or annoyed, he should say: ‘I am fasting, I am fasting.” (Ibn Khuzaimah, Ibn Hibban)

Therefore we must protect our tongue from vain speech and foul language. Protecting the tongue is preventing it from lying, back-biting, slander, tale-carrying, false speech and other things that have been forbidden in the Qur'an & Sunnah.

Those who control their tongues are of the best of Muslims:

The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) was asked: “Which Muslim is best?” He responded, “One who the other Muslims are safe from his tongue and his hand.” (Tirmidhi, #2504)

We must not deceive ourselves into thinking that by the time Ramadan comes we will all of a sudden break a lifetime habit and control our tongues. Again this is another big deception. We must start controlling our tongues now for we cannot for changing lifetime bad habits is not an overnight process.

So how can we begin to control our tongues? This can be done by "THINKING BEFORE SAYING ANYTHING". Not just talking without even thinking what we are going to say.

We must think before we speak and before saying anything we should think whether or not what we are going to say is going to please or displease Allah.

If we doubt that what we are about to say may anger or displease Allah then we should refrain from saying it. If we have nothing good to say then surely it is better NOT to say anything at all. Remember we WILL be accountable for everything we said in our lives so we MUST start taking responsiblity for what comes out of our mouths NOW otherwise we will regret it later when it is too late. Therefore we must get into the habit of "thinking before speaking".

So let us begin to control our tongues now so that by the time Ramadan comes we would have adopted good habits and would have been used to controlling our tongues and refraining from saying anything which may anger or displease Allah.
Original post by ash92:)
Assalaamu 'alaykum all!

As you know, I've been too busy irl to post here regularly, so I think it is not best that I remain I-SOC leader with such significant absence.


As such, we now have a new I-SOC leader:

Spoiler



Jazak Allahu Khairan,

And so it begins. :colone:
AoA
Any duas and wazifas for exams and for controlling exam tension and anxiety?
Original post by The infamous Q.
That was aaaaages ago, when my faith was really bad

Now i only say that i am agnostic

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Original post by Ruh
Agnostic-theistic muslim?


This is quite an interesting position and I'm seeing more Muslims adopting agnosticism. A user from the CEMB (Ex-Muslim) forum recently took it up explaining it as such:

I just posted this to my Facebook. You are welcome to comment there if you want. I'm trying to find a position I can take that I can be open with everyone, my family and friends as well as you guys hugs

What is an Agnostic Muslim?

I want to share where I stand regarding Islam. These are my own personal views and do not represent the views of other members of my family.

I use the label Agnostic Muslim to describe my beliefs. Partly out of pragmatism. It makes life easier amongst my Muslim family and friends. But also because Islam has without doubt been a major influence on me for half a century. It helped shape who I am and influences my behaviour, cultural habits, the way I think and look at the world. I instinctively reference wise sayings from Qur'an and Sunna and also find comfort in prayer and fasting.

At the same time I believe it is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God and while I consider the Qur'an a remarkable work with a great deal of wisdom, I do not believe it is the infallible word of God, but a fallible human work. I strongly believe all "Holy" texts must be subject to human reason and not the other way around.


http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=28556.0
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Original post by Alpha Lamb Meme
This is quite an interesting position and I'm seeing more Muslims adopting agnosticism. A user from the CEMB (Ex-Muslim) forum recently took it up explaining it as such:

http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=28556.0


It's one thing saying that God cannot be 100% proven objectively, but he destroyed his own position by stating at the end that the Quran is a fallible human work, and therefore it could very well make him a kafir. Based upon that last paragraph, anyone who holds his view is arguably a non-Muslim.

This person isn't really an Agnostic muslim, rather he is an Agnost wih islamic influences, and a reformist who would corrupt the religion if people listened to him.
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Original post by Ruh
It's one thing saying that God cannot be 100% proven objectively, but he destroyed his own position by stating at the end that the Quran is a fallible human work, and therefore it could very well make him a kafir. Based upon that last paragraph, anyone who holds his view is arguably a non-Muslim.

This person isn't really an Agnostic muslim, rather he is an Agnost wih islamic influences, and a reformist who would corrupt the religion if people listened to him.


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Yh agreed. There is no such thing as an agnostic Muslim. In this case, either you're muslim or you're not.

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Original post by IdeasForLife
+ 1

Yh agreed. There is no such thing as an agnostic Muslim. In this case, either you're muslim or you're not.

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What if someone is unsure

Like they're torn between thinking islam is legit, qur'an is word of god and islam isnt legit, qur'an was man made

Are they a kaffir
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Original post by Contacthaber
AoA
Any duas and wazifas for exams and for controlling exam tension and anxiety?


Wa 'alaykum assalaam

that He is capable of easing what He wills. Start revision sessions and the exams with the name of Allah 'bismillahi-Rahmaani-Raheem' - reminding you that He is the source of all success and achievement. When revising, pray 'rabbi-shraHlee Sadree, wa yassirlee amree' (My Rabb, expand for me my chest and ease for me my task) - reminding you that no task is accomplishable without His will and
Also do not rush your Salaah, focus on the words when praying Salaah and ask for help in your du'a.

Laa hawla wa laa quwwata illaa billaah (there is no power to change, nor power to effectuate, except originating from Allah). This phrase has been extolled in the ahadeeth, and rightly so. It is a remedy (of it is recited AND reflected upon) for worries and stress.

I don't believe in 'wazifahs', per se.

Apart from that, take plenty of revision breaks, stay hydrated, have proper sleep, summarise content if possible/beneficial, take a break after every half an hour or so and don't hesitate to be physically active during these breaks.
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Original post by The infamous Q.
What if someone is unsure

Like they're torn between thinking islam is legit, qur'an is word of god and islam isnt legit, qur'an was man made

Are they a kaffir
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You're having doubts but I'd be hesitant in calling yourself an agnostic though, I've always taken agnostic to mean "I don't disbelieve in God's existence but I don't believe in it either". In Islam that belief is vital, you need to have it. You can't decide to stop and take a middle standpoint for the rest of your life because that will take you out of Islam.
Original post by The infamous Q.
Subhanallah

I just got my first ever 75/75 maths mark in c2 :biggrin::smug:

Insha'allah i'll batter the real exam up just like i did with this past paper :yes:
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Thats awesome bro. Insha'Allah you can repeat in the exam :yy:

Original post by Iqbal007
Its the chandelier that dangles from the dome at Regents park Mosque


I thought it was ball room chandelier ( you liked my page so I saw it).

Original post by Inzamam99
Ramadan is a time where we must control our desires (nafs) aswell as our tongues:

Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: “Fasting is not (abstaining) from eating and drinking only, but also from vain speech and foul language. If one of you is being cursed or annoyed, he should say: ‘I am fasting, I am fasting.” (Ibn Khuzaimah, Ibn Hibban)

Therefore we must protect our tongue from vain speech and foul language. Protecting the tongue is preventing it from lying, back-biting, slander, tale-carrying, false speech and other things that have been forbidden in the Qur'an & Sunnah.

Those who control their tongues are of the best of Muslims:

The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) was asked: “Which Muslim is best?” He responded, “One who the other Muslims are safe from his tongue and his hand.” (Tirmidhi, #2504)

We must not deceive ourselves into thinking that by the time Ramadan comes we will all of a sudden break a lifetime habit and control our tongues. Again this is another big deception. We must start controlling our tongues now for we cannot for changing lifetime bad habits is not an overnight process.

So how can we begin to control our tongues? This can be done by "THINKING BEFORE SAYING ANYTHING". Not just talking without even thinking what we are going to say.

We must think before we speak and before saying anything we should think whether or not what we are going to say is going to please or displease Allah.

If we doubt that what we are about to say may anger or displease Allah then we should refrain from saying it. If we have nothing good to say then surely it is better NOT to say anything at all. Remember we WILL be accountable for everything we said in our lives so we MUST start taking responsiblity for what comes out of our mouths NOW otherwise we will regret it later when it is too late. Therefore we must get into the habit of "thinking before speaking".

So let us begin to control our tongues now so that by the time Ramadan comes we would have adopted good habits and would have been used to controlling our tongues and refraining from saying anything which may anger or displease Allah.


JazaakAllahu Khayran for sharing broski :smile:
Original post by IdeasForLife
You're having doubts but I'd be hesitant in calling yourself an agnostic though, I've always taken agnostic to mean "I don't disbelieve in God's existence but I don't believe in it either". In Islam that belief is vital, you need to have it. You can't decide to stop and take a middle standpoint for the rest of your life because that will take you out of Islam.


SalaamUAlaikum, I've always wondered. If someone knows that if you revert to Islam all your previous sins are wiped, what if they (purposely) decide to revert on their deathbed or in a natural disaster in the hope of attaining heaven but delaying reverting?

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