Having lots of "culture minority" MPs is NOT good
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Original post by subject1
Yes they have a grand sum of one mp. And now Nigel is out we can have a proper debate about immigration instead of "(insert issue here) is caused by 1000000000 immigrants." This should be able to educate people better instead of the scaremongering led by Nigel. And ukip IS Nigel without him ukip is dead. BYE NIGEL
How are people supposed to discuss uncontrolled immigration if we can't give of examples of the bad effects it is having in our country?
I think it's tough to say that ethnic minorities shouldn't become MPs. I'm an ethnic minority even though I look like I'm completely white - my mother's Malaysian but is now more "British" than my father in her accent, mannerisms and opinions (and theway she's brought me up, but that's because my dad is the epitome of an "Asian" (read: Chinese) parent) Furthermore, Britain is a very multicultural society. More and more people are spending time abroad before returning and many Britons have had ancestors who moved there several decades ago. I have several friends whose parents or even grandparents moved to the UK and they themselves were born there and have lived there ever since - why shouldn't they become MPs?
It's not like ethnic minorities would be out to get whites once they became MPs!
It's not like ethnic minorities would be out to get whites once they became MPs!
Original post by subject1
They are Islamophobic, do you really need to ask the racists that!
"Wah wah, he has a point- lets call him a waycist"
"Wah"
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.
Original post by billydisco
I'm not ranking cultures, I am saying Britain should not be importing additional cultures.
Original post by billydisco
I already answered this. I said it was not ranking what was "better". This is Britain and Britain should have the culture Britain has had for years..... are you honestly saying you do not understand this? I mean..... really?
Racist? Really? Looks like quite the opposite
"wah wah- waycist".....
Original post by subject1
Yes they have a grand sum of one mp. And now Nigel is out we can have a proper debate about immigration instead of "(insert issue here) is caused by 1000000000 immigrants." This should be able to educate people better instead of the scaremongering led by Nigel. And ukip IS Nigel without him ukip is dead. BYE NIGEL
So immigrants don't require houses?
Immigrants don't require hospitals?
Immigrant children don't require schools?
Immigrants don't use transport?
Immigrants dont use water and power?
and there was me thinking immigration would increase the demand on all of the above
Original post by MrMackyTv
Still haven't answered my question. Are you Islamophobic? If you don't know what it means please search it up and resoond to this question.
I did answer your question. I know I did because I was there when I replied to your Q.....
I am against any religion which is currently responsible for violence in 70 countries globally.
Original post by MrMackyTv
I have had enough for the night but I still disagree with your statement and it is clear you are against multicultralism even though Britain was the country that started it in the first place.
Yes I am against multiculturalism. Name me an advantage of multiculturalism? And please don't reply "food", because we have plenty of Chinese takeaways in the UK and yet we don't have Chinese culture.
Original post by MrMackyTv
I think you really need to study RS because right now you are blaming a religion for violence and you haven't even studied it so you can understand why it believes in what it believes in. Until then, people are going to label you as Islamophobic and relgious prejudist.
Why it believes what it believes in...... sounds like you're saying Islam has issues?
Original post by yabbayabba
Only those who have integrated will even want to be MPs, regardless of race. Stupid thread
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Im not sure how this follows at all.
Why would someone who has not integrated not want a job thst pays what £75,000 a year plus expenses?
Of course under our party political system ( or CON as I think of it) someone who hasn't integrated might have a hard time advancing.
And,indeed,seeing as Labour is probably the only party desperate enough to take on all comers and they are many many years away from having any chance of a majority then I rather think BillyDiscotheque can rest easy (for once)
Original post by Feels
How are people supposed to discuss uncontrolled immigration if we can't give of examples of the bad effects it is having in our country?
Mate, allow me to explain why these people think what they do. Every single pro-immigration person is either left-wing, or they are a business person wanting cheap Labour. However, due to the minimum wage, the latter is quite irrelevant. So we focus on the former.
Allow me to show you the socialist workers website:
Thats odd......... why on earth would socialist workers care about racism? In fact, most working-class people dislike immigration because it steals their jobs. However, these aren't the working-class socialists who are behind institutions like Socialist Worker and the Fabian Society. Here we have the champagne socialists. Why would they care about racism? The answer is, they love low-skilled immigration because they hate the aristocracy and flooding the country with immigrants dilutes the right-wing nature of England.
Why do you think Scotland is sooooooooooooo pro-EU? Because the EU is a left-wing institution, designed to try and make countries such as England more liberal. They don't like the fact we have hundreds of years of colonial history, hereditary peers, tradition, monarchy etc. They ABSOLUTELY hate it. They want us to be flooded with immigrants to try and eradicate this right-wing culture.
This is why lefties will call anybody who questions their views a racist...... they are obsessed with it.
At the end of the day a retard could tell you immigration is a problem unless, the immigrants are extremely wealthy. Otherwise, the native population end-up having to pay more tax just to build more hospitals, more schools and the countryside gets concreted-over, just so these champagne socialists can try and remove the right-wing nature of England......
Look at Labour's approach to immigration between 1997 and 2010. How many African immigrants with sod-all money/qualifications did they admit? What advantage did they expect to get from poor, unqualified immigrants?
The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.
He wrote: "Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.
"I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn't its main purpose – to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date."
He wrote: "Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.
"I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn't its main purpose – to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
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Original post by moggis
And,indeed,seeing as Labour is probably the only party desperate enough to take on all comers and they are many many years away from having any chance of a majority then I rather think BillyDiscotheque can rest easy (for once)
Labour is the problem- they are the one party who would do ANYTHING to get in power.
However, once Scotland sods-off, EVEL is implemented and the constituency boundaries changed to remove the Labour advantage, Labour stand very little chance of enforcing laws on England over the next 20 years.
Original post by clayclaytonton
I think it's tough to say that ethnic minorities shouldn't become MPs. I'm an ethnic minority even though I look like I'm completely white - my mother's Malaysian but is now more "British" than my father in her accent, mannerisms and opinions (and theway she's brought me up, but that's because my dad is the epitome of an "Asian" (read: Chinese) parent) Furthermore, Britain is a very multicultural society. More and more people are spending time abroad before returning and many Britons have had ancestors who moved there several decades ago. I have several friends whose parents or even grandparents moved to the UK and they themselves were born there and have lived there ever since - why shouldn't they become MPs?
It's not like ethnic minorities would be out to get whites once they became MPs!
It's not like ethnic minorities would be out to get whites once they became MPs!
This wasn't meant as a "you werent born here? We don't like you" thread
I am simply saying there are people living here, of certain cultures, not adopting to our culture who want to enforce their culture on us. For example, Sharia Law.
I was then ridiculed and told that people who are voted could be trusted to act in Britain's interest..... oh with the small exception we have two MPs who are the political arm of the IRA terrorist group......
Original post by billydisco
I did answer your question. I know I did because I was there when I replied to your Q.....
I am against any religion which is currently responsible for violence in 70 countries globally.
Yes I am against multiculturalism. Name me an advantage of multiculturalism? And please don't reply "food", because we have plenty of Chinese takeaways in the UK and yet we don't have Chinese culture.
Why it believes what it believes in...... sounds like you're saying Islam has issues?
I am against any religion which is currently responsible for violence in 70 countries globally.
Yes I am against multiculturalism. Name me an advantage of multiculturalism? And please don't reply "food", because we have plenty of Chinese takeaways in the UK and yet we don't have Chinese culture.
Why it believes what it believes in...... sounds like you're saying Islam has issues?
At the risk of sounding pedantic ,in fact religion( edit ,or any one religion)doesn't cause violence in 70 countries .
It causes violence in EVERY country......and always will.
(Then again so does alcohol,women and football.
)(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by moggis
At the risk of sounding pedantic ,in fact religion( edit ,or any one religion)doesn't cause violence in 70 countries .
It causes violence in EVERY country......and always will.
(Then again so does alcohol,women and football.)
It causes violence in EVERY country......and always will.
(Then again so does alcohol,women and football.
)I don't disagree (religion).
Original post by ILovePancakes
2011 census data showed that immigrants were 45% less likely to claim benefits.
Between 2001 and 2011, European Economic Area (EEA) immigrants contributed 34% more to the fiscal system than they took out, equivalent to a net contribution of around 22 billion GBP.
This is census data, which you are free to look up. Obvs not majority of immigrants, but seeing how Eastern Europen immigrants have been a 'concern'.
Between 2001 and 2011, European Economic Area (EEA) immigrants contributed 34% more to the fiscal system than they took out, equivalent to a net contribution of around 22 billion GBP.
This is census data, which you are free to look up. Obvs not majority of immigrants, but seeing how Eastern Europen immigrants have been a 'concern'.
Dear oh dear.
This is a good example of stats being used to mislead.
Just to take the first stat...the 45% one.
OF COURSE immigrants are less likely to claim benefits than people who have lived here for up to 70 years lol.
Apart from anything else the average immigrant is younger and healthier and stronger than the average native.
And guess what? Young,strong healthy people are less likely to claim benefits.
But guess what again?
All these young healthy strong immigrants get old and sick.( And even.....lazy
)*Can't be bothered with the other stats .They are simply next to meaningless because they do not take into account the contributions that WOULD have been made had those jobs gone to natives apart from other things.
* When one of my Polish au pairs first came here I would come home only to find my whole kitchen in disarray cos shed taken it upon herself to clean behind the fridge and the cooker!!!!!!!!!!!!,
I mean who does that!!? Never seen anything like it.
But now,4 years later,I come home to find her almost invariably splayed out on the sofa watching youtube on my smart tv.
Talk about integration!
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by HygieneTherapy15
I dont know if you watched Question Time the day after the election but I did and Paddy Ashdown was so good on it that ,as a betting man, I would bet a reasonable amount that they will in fact get over 40 seats in 2020.
In fact.....and if you knew my views on voting and political parties etc this would be sooooo amazing.....I myself am seriously thinking of joining up .And even doing something else to help.
I have to say that the way they were treated by the electorate beggars belief.
Original post by moggis
I dont know if you watched Question Time the day after the election but I did and Paddy Ashdown was so good on it that ,as a betting man, I would bet a reasonable amount that they will in fact get over 40 seats in 2020.
In fact.....and if you knew my views on voting and political parties etc this would be sooooo amazing.....I myself am seriously thinking of joining up .And even doing something else to help.
I have to say that the way they were treated by the electorate beggars belief.
In fact.....and if you knew my views on voting and political parties etc this would be sooooo amazing.....I myself am seriously thinking of joining up .And even doing something else to help.
I have to say that the way they were treated by the electorate beggars belief.
40? no way, when you get decimated like the Liberals did it takes more than 5 years to recover, they might get 20.
Original post by Feels
40? no way, when you get decimated like the Liberals did it takes more than 5 years to recover, they might get 20.
What I think you have overlooked is the fact that Labour are also in crisis.
At the next election there will be many people who will want the Tories to have less power while not necessarily wanting to vote Labour.
Plus,as I say,many people will realise just how hard -done by the Lib Dems were.
Believe me,if I am thinking of joining a political party for the first time in my life then that says more than anything I can say
Anyway ....we shall see.......be interesting to see who they elect as leader of course.
Actually...that's one big problem.They don't have much choice!
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by moggis
What I think you have overlooked is the fact that Labour are also in crisis.
At the next election there will be many people who will want the Tories to have less power while not necessarily wanting to vote Labour.
Plus,as I say,many people will realise just how hard -done by the Lib Dems were.
Believe me,if I am thinking of joining a political party for the first time in my life then that says more than anything I can say
Anyway ....we shall see.......be interesting to see who they elect as leader of course.
Actually...that's one big problem.They don't have much choice!
At the next election there will be many people who will want the Tories to have less power while not necessarily wanting to vote Labour.
Plus,as I say,many people will realise just how hard -done by the Lib Dems were.
Believe me,if I am thinking of joining a political party for the first time in my life then that says more than anything I can say
Anyway ....we shall see.......be interesting to see who they elect as leader of course.
Actually...that's one big problem.They don't have much choice!
True, but there also the Greens, SNP and UKIP.
Original post by Feels
True, but there also the Greens, SNP and UKIP.
Sure but everyone knows the Greens can't really compete for seats.
I am happy to discount Scotland altogether .
Now UKIP is an interesting one because many of their voters will be disillusioned by the system and less likely to bother next time.
Regardless, I can't see too many of them voting Lib Dem it's true.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by moggis
At the risk of sounding pedantic ,in fact religion( edit ,or any one religion)doesn't cause violence in 70 countries .
It causes violence in EVERY country......and always will.
(Then again so does alcohol,women and football.)
It causes violence in EVERY country......and always will.
(Then again so does alcohol,women and football.
)You don't see the advantages of multiculturalism because you are a racist. No one actually cares what you say so why don't you shut up.
Most people in Britain are tolerant and does not think that someone's colour of skin would mean that they should be treated differently.
So why don't you stop trolling because no matter what you say no one is going to vote for the bnp and national front like you do. No matter what you say the 'immigrants' will come and stay. No matter what you say your narrow minded views will not be shared.
Don't reply.
Original post by billydisco
Why do I need to prove anything?
If you make the claim, then you provide the evidence. Simples.
Original post by MrMackyTv
Still haven't answered my question. Are you Islamophobic? If you don't know what it means please search it up and resoond to this question.
I have had enough for the night but I still disagree with your statement and it is clear you are against multicultralism even though Britain was the country that started it in the first place. I think you really need to study RS because right now you are blaming a religion for violence and you haven't even studied it so you can understand why it believes in what it believes in. Until then, people are going to label you as Islamophobic and relgious prejudist.
I have had enough for the night but I still disagree with your statement and it is clear you are against multicultralism even though Britain was the country that started it in the first place. I think you really need to study RS because right now you are blaming a religion for violence and you haven't even studied it so you can understand why it believes in what it believes in. Until then, people are going to label you as Islamophobic and relgious prejudist.
Billydisco is claiming that he's against the religion, but tbh, it is more against Muslims - he brought up the gangs that preyed on little kids, and I told him that well, Islamically they'd be executed...
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