oh and to your question "guys like being fat?" Personally I dont think I am fat, but I would probably feel better to have a six pack just because I guess it's what most people think is good, if I lived in a culture where being a bit fat was good then I'd probably not want a six pack and prefer to be like that. For me to feel good within myself though I just want to feel fit, like I can run a few miles ok, hike a big mountain ok etc, and strong. If I am strong I dont mind being a little fat because overall, due to the strength, I still feel manly, like I can crush other men whether they have a six pack or not.