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Should UK companies/services be fined if they don't have 40%+ women on boards?

Or managerial positions* (couldn't fit that in the title)

That's exactly what the Swedish Justice and Migration Minister is planning to do and I for one think it's a great move. The fines would depend on the size of the company or they could be "dissolved" if they don't meet the 40% quota. I think 40% is a fair figure.

I think it's a win-win for both the women who will be promoted/employed into these high-ranking positions and also for the companies benefiting from the diversity and women friendly atmosphere in board meetings/decisions.




http://www.thelocal.se/20150515/employ-more-women-or-else-swedish-companies-told

Justice and Migration Minister Morgan Johansson has told Swedish companies that they could face penalties if they don't comply with proposed government legislation designed to ensure boards of directors have a 40 percent female representation.


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On Friday, Justice and Migration Minister Morgan Johansson told Swedish Radio that there could be a number of punitive measures to ensure companies take the legislation seriously.

“The company could be dissolved or fined heavily,” Johansson said. He suggested that any penalty payment could be related to the company’s size.
(edited 8 years ago)

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Sweden yes!
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jlsmp
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thats absolutely ridiculous and disgusting
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Arkasia
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Lol no.
No
The west approaching a problem by sticking a plaster on itrather than adreesing the underlying issue...
Quotas are stupid. Hire people based on their merits, not their gender
What absolute bull****, then when a women gets the job and you don't, it'd probably be down to the quota and not their actual skill.
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Original post by jlsmp
thats absolutely ridiculous and disgusting

Disgusting? You think equality is ridiculous?
Nah people should be hired because of ability not because of race or gender.

People should be treated equally. Turning down a good candidate for a less able candidate because they don't have the gender or skin colour to match the government's quota is wrong.
That's ridiculous it should be down to merit whether a person gets a job or not. Businesses should be allowed to hire whoever they want to hire - shouldn't have a quota forced on them. What about jobs like construction etc, which are for the most part male dominated?
Perhaps they could try to attract more women in the industry in the first place? (If there is a lack of women). I can see the benefit of quotas, but maybe that's a bit of a large number?
I thought we were all meritocratic?
No, some women simply might not want to work in specific sectors.
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Original post by Daenerys...
Disgusting? You think equality is ridiculous?


sigh. Hows that equality. Men dont have quotas so it currently is equal. Typical feminist
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Answer this question: why do you think that management roles should not be allocated to employees using a 'gender-blind' policy based solely upon personal merit?

Given that men and women are just as valuable as each other in the workplace, surely this would lead to a fair representation of women in management roles, yes? It appears that to suggest otherwise would be to say that women are in some way deficient and that this entire issue is just women moaning about their inadequacies.
Original post by Dilzo999
What absolute bull****, then when a women gets the job and you don't, it'd probably be down to the quota and not their actual skill.



I think this is a sexist comment. Are you saying that women are less skilled than men across the board?
Original post by Daenerys...
Disgusting? You think equality is ridiculous?


This is exactly the opposite of inequality it will mean that women, who aren't as able as men in the positions will get the jobs above those who are more skilled.

Equality is about ensuring opportunity for both sexes and that the best get the jobs whether they are a man or a woman, if a job has 5% men and 95% women or the other way round or any ratio its ok as long as noone is being discriminated against and the best are getting the jobs-lets also remember these ratios exist not just due to ability but due to those who apply for a lot of jobs this will be simply impossible to enforce as not many women are applying for them.An example of this is the General Election where more men were elected primarily due to the fact that not many women stood, a lot of seats not a single woman stood.
No. That's a bit of a ridiculous suggestion really. What about in companies which have a workforce that is <40% female? They would always be fined for something that isn't their fault. Just gotta accept that equality doesn't mean having equal numbers of men/women in a job, and instead means, as others have said, jobs being awarded based on ability rather than gender.

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What a ridiculous idea. People shouldn't be hired because of what gender they are.

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