You deserve to die if you eat meat

I really am curious what vitamin/mineral do we not get from plants that we can ONLY get from another animal?

Tell that to 99% of the human race who eat meat!
How is it not natural, if we go back to the beggining of man on earth, we were one of the top consumers, we hunted and ate animals as it was a better soirce of protein than anything else we could find.

I admire you bejng vegan, but dont force your veiws on us meat eaters, we will still continue to eat meat.


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I don't mean to be rude but if you're a vegan/vegetarian and you don't already know the answer to this there is something really wrong... Do you even take any of the essential supplements? I think you need to do some research

Well good for you. Guess what? That's YOUR choice, and you're perfectly entitled to it. But you know what else? You're not entitled to tell anyone else what to eat (funny that) and you can call us SELFISH all you want. Honestly, that's your opinion and I don't care.

Here's a reality check. For veganism to have a significant effect on reducing global warming, it would needed to be adopted by a pretty significant majority of the population. Here's a few reasons why that's never going to happen:

1. Old habits die hard - you're going to have a hard time of convincing people to to something as drastic as changing the diet they've always known, especially when it is innate

2. There are a heck of a lot of people living in poverty - who unfortunately don't have the luxury of going to a supermarket for their nicely seasoned tofu. Try telling those people to pick and choose what they eat

3. There are far too many individuals, firms and companies with too much to lose if everyone where to go vegan. The global economy will simply not allow it.

So yes, please do continue to give up meat if you choose to. It may well be a great lifestyle choice. But if you're doing it in the hope that global warming is going to go away anytime soon then don't hold your breath.

Vitamin B12
Vitamin D3
One form of Omega-3 (DHA)

(And more...)

Some sources
http://authoritynutrition.com/5-brain-nutrients-in-meat-fish-eggs/
http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/meat.htm

It's definitely a thing, but I'd be wary on how it tastes like, plus I live on light Philadelphia when I'm cooking.

You should try VioLife - it tates amaaaaazing! Also, there are amazing vegan cream cheeses out there. Available in every Holland and Barrett

Yeah me too, lol. Oh my - philaddeeelphia + toast = There are probably vegan versions of that too, do you know what is used as a substitute? - Just wondering.

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i know this is a bit different but i had vegan ice cream yesterday and i promise it was no different to the real thing. im not exagerrating at all. its called booja booja, you should try it

Not really lol. I eat meat because I need to get my nutrients and protein and it's the most efficient way to do it.

Vitamin B12
Vitamin D3
One form of Omega-3 (DHA)

(And more...)

Some sources
http://authoritynutrition.com/5-brain-nutrients-in-meat-fish-eggs/
http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/meat.htm

Stopped reading at "I am a vegan."

Let's see your muscles then, champ

Supporting data? Uhhh when I walk the **** outside? This isn't about supporting data. This is about me arguing with a stranger at the crack of dawn in my arse about a photo he put up of a muscular Olympian with intentions to pass it off as a typical example of a vegan.

when you say, "when i walk outside", how do you know skinny people in the street are vegan? you're just saying that cos its a sterotype, do you know any vegans. im a vegan and im not thin and weak like you said before. the onlny other vegan guy i know is pretty muscley but hes not an athlete, just a normal guy

why would you rather die than be forced on to a vegan diet? that seems a bit far. did you know that raising livestock is one of the largest (if not the largest) cause of global warming. it is also the leading cause of deforestation (91% of amazon lost so far is due to clearing trees for livestick and their feed crops), ocean dead zones, theres more but i cant think of it, i think its the leading cause of species loss too. it takes up a massive amount of space, half of all the land in the USA is used for raising cattle. one day people are going to be forced to be vegan, so you should start now to reduce the problems eating meat causes

also, with regards to the quality of life of animals in UK farms, you are just assuming that they arent that bad, i know you cannot have even taken 5 minutes to google whether you are right or not, cos if you did, then you would find that you are wrong.

I don't actually eat a lot of meat. Simply through picky eating I've grown up only eating some types of meat occasionally, mostly chicken, and today I don't tend to eat huge amounts of it.

There is definitely a case for some people to cut back on the amount of meat they eat, and that's what makes people like the idiot in the video so frustrating. It means that legitimate and reasonable arguments that meat eaters might listen to and change their diet because of it (even if it's cutting back as opposed to cutting out completely) are not heard because some extremists get most of the attention.

Remember that vegan includes all dairy products and not just meat. I absolutely will not give up things like milk.



Factory farms are certainly far from ideal, but we do have welfare laws in place, which is often not the case for lots of other countries.
You also have a lot of free range farms, but unfortunately free range can't feed the whole world with meat consumption at its current level. I live in a rural area and have spent a lot of time on those farms.

its not his opinion that you are being selfish, its fact, by the definition of the word selfish. what you are doing is putting your own wants before the entire lives of animals and the good of the global environment. all your getting out of it is a nice taste in your mouth, but the cost of that is an entire lifetime of an animal being depressed, scared and in pain, and on top of that your really damaging the environment. that is selfish, its not opinion.

changing to a vegan diet really isnt hard, its not drastic, its just changing stubborn peoples minds thats hard. you say its never going to happen, but if it doesnt global warming will **** up the world, so if it doesnt peolpe are actually going to die because of others being stubborn.

the thing you said about poor people has already been addressed pretty well by that other guy, i think you may have perlied, what about hunters etc.we're not talking about hunters, we're talking about people like you, living in developed countries, who have a choice. also, hunters etc make up a tiny percentage of the amount of meat eaten in the world, its not really important so theres no point in mentioning it.

the economy is not more important than the environment, when global warmings effects a fully being felt people arent going to be glad they saved the economy. any way, the economy will be ok, instead of raising cows and stuff, these people can grow crops instead.

Tell that to 99% of the human race who eat meat!
How is it not natural, if we go back to the beggining of man on earth, we were one of the top consumers, we hunted and ate animals as it was a better soirce of protein than anything else we could find.

I admire you bejng vegan, but dont force your veiws on us meat eaters, we will still continue to eat meat.


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