I support neither side i'm just highlighting the utter hypocrisy.
True, but one must remember that the world is not fairy land. We live in a world where Russia and the EU have economic unions that implicitly impose tariffs on the other (Russian customs union and EU), so it's inevitable that they were eventually going to lock horns over a potential consumer pool of 40 million people. Not sure anybody thought it would go this far, but the fact is that essentially the EU and Russia are quite happy to tear Ukraine apart for a large consumer market.
True, but one must remember that the world is not fairy land. We live in a world where Russia and the EU have economic unions that implicitly impose tariffs on the other (Russian customs union and EU), so it's inevitable that they were eventually going to lock horns over a potential consumer pool of 40 million people. Not sure anybody thought it would go this far, but the fact is that essentially the EU and Russia are quite happy to tear Ukraine apart for a large consumer market.
Consumerist ********s. This is why increasingly I don't care about democracy vs autocracy. It's a false dichotomy, there's **** leaders and good leaders.
Consumerist ********s. This is why increasingly I don't care about democracy vs autocracy. It's a false dichotomy, there's **** leaders and good leaders.
Fair point. There's no good and evil, it's just 2 powers wanting to be a bit richer.
It's a hypothetical situation, if you want an actual example look no further than Cuba.
Not only are you comparing two different scenarios, you are using an example that is over 50 years old to justify the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Not only are you comparing two different scenarios, you are using an example that is over 50 years old to justify the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Do you see the issue in that?
Ok
Considering you compared Putin to Hitler before the hypocrisy is not lost on you but if you want some recent examples.
Ukraine, on the other hand, did not undermine Russia's security; which makes Putin's invasion of Ukraine all the worse.
Except that is where you are wrong. It was a revolution on the border, it has weapons factories the Soviets used, Crimea is where the naval fleet of Russia has been for centuries, the nationalist government that opposed Viktor Yanukovych immediately proposed legislation to make the Russian language a minority. Yanukovych was popular in the East and the people (or at least enough) of Kiev overthrew him and then held elections without them. There is also concern about NATO expansion...
Except that is where you are wrong. It is on the border, it has weapons factories the Soviets used, Crimea is where the naval fleet of Russia has been for centuries, the nationalist government that opposed Viktor Yanukovych immediately proposed legislation to make the Russian language a minority. Yanukovych was popular in the East and the people (or at least enough) of Kiev overthrew him and then held elections without them.
None of these are an issue because Ukraine isn't a threat to Russia - they handed away their nuclear arsenal. Ukraine also makes a great deal of money with weapon exports, and there's (or at least was, before Putler began the invasion) no need for a large military so it's not as if these factories would be working against Russia.
There's an agreement of lease between Russia and Ukraine for military bases in Crimea that was renewed prior to the crisis - until the 2030s or even 2040s.
Removing the special status of the Russian language does not threaten Russian interests at all. Furthermore, Ukraine has its own language and is an independent country, so I don't see the problem with that?
The elections in May did not account for the people in the East because they were on the territory of two terrorist republics and an active warzone, the DNR and the LNR. Therefore it would be impossible to organize a voting procedure there. However they were free to vote for the Rada elections.
None of these are an issue because Ukraine isn't a threat to Russia - they handed away their nuclear arsenal. Ukraine also makes a great deal of money with weapon exports, and there's (or at least was, before Putler began the invasion) no need for a large military so it's not as if these factories would be working against Russia.
There's an agreement of lease between Russia and Ukraine for military bases in Crimea that was renewed prior to the crisis - until the 2030s or even 2040s.
Removing the special status of the Russian language does not threaten Russian interests at all. Furthermore, Ukraine has its own language and is an independent country, so I don't see the problem with that?
The elections in May did not account for the people in the East because they were on the territory of two terrorist republics and an active warzone, the DNR and the LNR. Therefore it would be impossible to organize a voting procedure there. However they were free to vote for the Rada elections.
Which might not be recognised by the new government.
No but it is awfully concerning that the first thing a government does is discriminates a quarter of its population.