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Original post by MatureStudent36
Israelis have done things in return.

But Israel tends to respond, not initiate.


That's a point of view. Everyone will insist that what they're doing is actually a response to something. The "Who started it" game can go back 100 years.
Original post by SotonianOne
Your claim, your burden of proof.

Go go.

Avoid conspiracy theory sites though, not interested in them.


http://defensetech.org/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-accused-of-selling-us-secrets-to-china-1510406.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jun/13/usa.israel

You're right, these must all be wrong then. For someone that claims to know a lot about economics, I'm surprised you didn't know about this; perhaps reading the news FROM your country would help.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175404#.VW3ad89VhBc
Original post by RhymeAsylumForever


Oh well, as long as they had a good price for it.

Nope, by technology superiority I mean Israel's R&D and knowledge sector, largest in the world after South Korea.

Not necessarily military tech.
Original post by SotonianOne
Oh well, as long as they had a good price for it.

Nope, by technology superiority I mean Israel's R&D and knowledge sector, largest in the world after South Korea.

Not necessarily military tech.


Israel won't sign the nuclear profilertion treaties and states it will use it's nuclear weapons to cripple the world if threatened. Does this not scare you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
Original post by DesmondHarry
Israel won't sign the nuclear profilertion treaties and states it will use it's nuclear weapons to cripple the world if threatened. Does this not scare you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option


No. We also have nuclear weapons.
Original post by DesmondHarry
Israel won't sign the nuclear profilertion treaties and states it will use it's nuclear weapons to cripple the world if threatened. Does this not scare you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option


Israel is a decent nation, I'd be worried if Saudi Arabia or a dump like that made a similar threat.
Original post by MatureStudent36
Israelis have done things in return.

But Israel tends to respond, not initiate.


Did the children they sniped initiate it?


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Original post by Skip_Snip
Israel is a decent nation, I'd be worried if Saudi Arabia or a dump like that made a similar threat.


>decent nation
>uses white phosphorus on children
>broken 66 un resoloutions
>decent nation
Original post by SotonianOne
No. We also have nuclear weapons.


So it's okay for Europe to get glassed with nukes because we've got them to
brilliant
vote SotanianOne for nuclear annihilation
:^)
Original post by DesmondHarry
So it's okay for Europe to get glassed with nukes because we've got them to
brilliant
vote SotanianOne for nuclear annihilation
:^)


Yes, we should immediately embargo The United States, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and North Korea, because their nuclear weapons pose a threat to Europe. Only Europe is permitted to build and maintain nuclear weapons.
Original post by DesmondHarry
>decent nation
>uses white phosphorus on children
>broken 66 un resoloutions
>decent nation


Because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia where the hands of children are cut off for stealing bread is a much more children-friendly alternative than Israel.
Original post by SotonianOne
Because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia where the hands of children are cut off for stealing bread is a much more children-friendly alternative than Israel.


Why bring Pakistan and Saudi Arabia into a debate about Israel? Absurd logic.
Original post by Bornblue
Why bring Pakistan and Saudi Arabia into a debate about Israel? Absurd logic.


So Desmond's reply about the Earth is more Israel-centric than Pakistan and Saudi Arabia?

K then...
Original post by SotonianOne
So Desmond's reply about the Earth is more Israel-centric than Pakistan and Saudi Arabia?

K then...


Justifying killing children because another country is bad is an appalling logic.
Leave the debate about Israel and Palestine.
One of the most frequent 'defenses' of those justifying Israel's actions is to say 'look at all the other countries exploiting human rights too.'
Original post by SotonianOne
Yes, we should immediately embargo The United States, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and North Korea, because their nuclear weapons pose a threat to Europe. Only Europe is permitted to build and maintain nuclear weapons.


The only people to not sign it are India, Pakistan and Israel. As well as south sudan although i doubt they have the capabilities to launch nuclear weapons at most of the world.

You embargo Iran on the slight chance that they may want to develop nuclear weapons somewhere along the lines, but it's okay for Israel to brandish and threaten.

Nice double standards you got there bro
Original post by SotonianOne
Because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia where the hands of children are cut off for stealing bread is a much more children-friendly alternative than Israel.


Israel/Palestine

not Israel/rest of the world

Don't change the subject. By all means open another thread entitled "Israel/Saudi-Arabia, Pakistan and Palestine"
http://www.israellawresourcecenter.org/internationallaw/studyguides/sgil3i.htm
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by DesmondHarry
The only people to not sign it are India, Pakistan and Israel. As well as south sudan although i doubt they have the capabilities to launch nuclear weapons at most of the world.

You embargo Iran on the slight chance that they may want to develop nuclear weapons somewhere along the lines, but it's okay for Israel to brandish and threaten.

Nice double standards you got there bro


Because Israel is an ally, Iran is not.

It's called national interest. There's no detriment to the UK with Israel having nuclear weapons.
Original post by SotonianOne
Because Israel is an ally, Iran is not.

It's called national interest. There's no detriment to the UK with Israel having nuclear weapons.


One can argue the whole existence of Israel is a detriment on the UK. Futhermore we cannot simply be "world protectors" enforcing the law purely for our interests. Also Iran is not an ally, but it's not an enemy either. We are allies with Saudi Arabia ,would you be fine with them obtaining nuclear weapons? I certainly wouldn't. If you actually cared about national interest you'd want the UK to cut ties with Israel because it would open more ties with Arab states which= arab oil moneys. So your argument has little substance like MDMA.
Original post by SotonianOne
Because Israel is an ally, Iran is not.

It's called national interest. There's no detriment to the UK with Israel having nuclear weapons.


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FBI Says Israel a Major Player in Industrial Espionagehttp://www.jweekly.com/article/full/7380/fbi-says-israel-a-major-player-in-industrial-espionage/
If Israel Sold Patriot Secrets...http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/20/opinion/if-israel-sold-patriot-secrets.html
Israel Accused of Selling U.S. Secrets to Chinahttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-accused-of-selling-us-secrets-to-china-1510406.html
Israel Gave Secret U.S. Tech to Chinahttp://i-hls.com/2013/12/israel-gave-secret-u-s-tech-to-china/
Israel Secretly Sells American Nuclear Weapons to Chinahttp://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=776
Lavon Affairhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
Israeli Spying on U.S. at 'Alarming Level'http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-spying-us-alarming-level-133658376.html
Israel Won't Stop Spying on the U.S.http://www.newsweek.com/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757
'Israel Stole U.S. Uranium to Build Nukes'http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217955.html
U.S.S. Liberty Incidenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
U.S. Furious at Israel Equipment Transfer to Chinahttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175404#.UwZ2-Eqdmsc

If Israel stabs America, by far it's closest ally, in the back multiple times. Do you thin it's valuable ally?
Original post by TheTruthTeller
Arab states which= arab oil moneys.


If he's all for trade as he says he is then he'll understand that

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