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Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.

Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?
Original post by adamphilpot
Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.

Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?


Might be useful in terms of talking about being calm in a stressful situation, importance of good communication with your patients, the understanding of needing to work effectively with other healthcare professionals as part of a multidisciplinary team. Maybe.
Original post by adamphilpot
Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.

Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?


That's really good! You'll be able to talk about high stress situations, you'll meet different people with varying issues and you'll be able to practice and see some clinical procedures.
Original post by adamphilpot
Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.

Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?


Just the training course no... Actually doing the FPOS work when you are seeing patients with the ambience service Yes
Original post by adamphilpot
Just wondering if anyone knows whether training courses count towards the work experience. I'm going to be taking the Fist Person On Scene intermediate course in July. Its a 30 hour advanced first aid course run by the ambulance service and then can work as a community first responder or as an EMT as part of an ambulance crew.Will the course itself be of any use other than as a personal qualification?


Original post by lcsurfer
Just the training course no... Actually doing the FPOS work when you are seeing patients with the ambience service Yes

yeah thats what i was thinking, the work after the course would be good but wasn't too sure if doing the course would count towards anything. Still worth mentioning i think though even if i don't actually get to do the work after.
Do you get govt funding for this course ?


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Original post by hassyrocks
Do you get govt funding for this course ?


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Determined by a range of factors.Go through the thread and research e.g nhs website, student loan company etc
Hi all,

A little late to the party, but have spent the past couple of days catching up with most of this thread (been a bit quiet at work).I was hoping to get some thoughts on my application.

After average GCSE's and relatively poor A-Levels (due to a complete lack of effort on my part). I went on to a BSc Computer Science (with a specialisation in Artificial Intelligence) at university, but due to unfortunate circumstances, I only ended obtaining a 2:ii.

Following this I went travelling, and whilst travelling I had an (admittedly very cliched) epiphany after being hospitalised and coming close to death. This was the prompt I clearly needed to kick my arse into gear.

When I returned home from travelling, I got a job as a network technician in a secondary school, and after 1 year there, I began teaching Computing and Mathematics.

I have been accepted to start my PGCE at the Institute of Education (ranked number 1 for teacher training in the world) in Sept. 2015 and have been awarded the British Computer Society's scholarship for outstanding teaching candidates.

I also started a distance learning LLB Laws (2 year course) a year ago (intending to specialise in medical law), but stopped after my first year as it just wasn't medicine. I averaged an Upper 1st through that year, but have decided it just isn't what I want to be doing. This was also while I was working full time (9-3.30 teaching + several hours marking and planning lessons per day).

So, aside from my educational background, I have an abundance of extra curriculars. My experience is somewhat varied from the usual, but still within a public health/care role. I have worked alongside a private physiotherapist (2 evenings per week and most Saturdays) for several months now as well being a strength and conditioning coach for athletes (from amateurs up to national competitors). I have plenty of experience in public relations roles, and hope to attain some work in care homes/hospices over the summer (prior to starting my PGCE).

Aside from needing to study for the GAMSAT (no easy task, I know), is there any thing else you guys think I could improve on to help supplement my poor educational background.

I appreciate this is a lot of info, so thank you anyone who takes the time to read this entire thing, but for those who didn't, here is the TL;DR summary:

Poor grades in early education.
Have shown a commitment to working hard.
2 years experience teaching technical subjects.


Any input, critical or otherwise is appreciated!

Cheers,
Dave
is this graduate entry course who can afford to pay the fees themselves and there is no help from govt. and the student finance? how people could manage paying 10000£ a year? without loans . isn't this really expensive?
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Original post by hassyrocks
is this graduate entry course who can afford to pay the fees themselves and there is no help from govt. and the student finance? how people could manage paying 10000£ a year? without loans . isn't this really expensive?


Student finance and maintenance loans are available.


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Original post by d.holmes1
Hi all,

A little late to the party, but have spent the past couple of days catching up with most of this thread (been a bit quiet at work).I was hoping to get some thoughts on my application.

After average GCSE's and relatively poor A-Levels (due to a complete lack of effort on my part). I went on to a BSc Computer Science (with a specialisation in Artificial Intelligence) at university, but due to unfortunate circumstances, I only ended obtaining a 2:ii.

Following this I went travelling, and whilst travelling I had an (admittedly very cliched) epiphany after being hospitalised and coming close to death. This was the prompt I clearly needed to kick my arse into gear.

When I returned home from travelling, I got a job as a network technician in a secondary school, and after 1 year there, I began teaching Computing and Mathematics.

I have been accepted to start my PGCE at the Institute of Education (ranked number 1 for teacher training in the world) in Sept. 2015 and have been awarded the British Computer Society's scholarship for outstanding teaching candidates.

I also started a distance learning LLB Laws (2 year course) a year ago (intending to specialise in medical law), but stopped after my first year as it just wasn't medicine. I averaged an Upper 1st through that year, but have decided it just isn't what I want to be doing. This was also while I was working full time (9-3.30 teaching + several hours marking and planning lessons per day).

So, aside from my educational background, I have an abundance of extra curriculars. My experience is somewhat varied from the usual, but still within a public health/care role. I have worked alongside a private physiotherapist (2 evenings per week and most Saturdays) for several months now as well being a strength and conditioning coach for athletes (from amateurs up to national competitors). I have plenty of experience in public relations roles, and hope to attain some work in care homes/hospices over the summer (prior to starting my PGCE).

Aside from needing to study for the GAMSAT (no easy task, I know), is there any thing else you guys think I could improve on to help supplement my poor educational background.

I appreciate this is a lot of info, so thank you anyone who takes the time to read this entire thing, but for those who didn't, here is the TL;DR summary:

Poor grades in early education.
Have shown a commitment to working hard.
2 years experience teaching technical subjects.


Any input, critical or otherwise is appreciated!

Cheers,
Dave


Hi Dave,

If you are applying to GAMSAT unis that accept 2ii non science degrees - they will not actually look at your previous records of GCSE and A-Level results - but to be honest - you can confirm this with the Unis for an ease of mind (this was the feedback I got from Plymouth and Exeter for example although both are undergrad entry as they don't have GEM routes) - good luck with it all
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Original post by d.holmes1
Hi all,

A little late to the party, but have spent the past couple of days catching up with most of this thread (been a bit quiet at work).I was hoping to get some thoughts on my application.

After average GCSE's and relatively poor A-Levels (due to a complete lack of effort on my part). I went on to a BSc Computer Science (with a specialisation in Artificial Intelligence) at university, but due to unfortunate circumstances, I only ended obtaining a 2:ii.

Following this I went travelling, and whilst travelling I had an (admittedly very cliched) epiphany after being hospitalised and coming close to death. This was the prompt I clearly needed to kick my arse into gear.

When I returned home from travelling, I got a job as a network technician in a secondary school, and after 1 year there, I began teaching Computing and Mathematics.

I have been accepted to start my PGCE at the Institute of Education (ranked number 1 for teacher training in the world) in Sept. 2015 and have been awarded the British Computer Society's scholarship for outstanding teaching candidates.

I also started a distance learning LLB Laws (2 year course) a year ago (intending to specialise in medical law), but stopped after my first year as it just wasn't medicine. I averaged an Upper 1st through that year, but have decided it just isn't what I want to be doing. This was also while I was working full time (9-3.30 teaching + several hours marking and planning lessons per day).

So, aside from my educational background, I have an abundance of extra curriculars. My experience is somewhat varied from the usual, but still within a public health/care role. I have worked alongside a private physiotherapist (2 evenings per week and most Saturdays) for several months now as well being a strength and conditioning coach for athletes (from amateurs up to national competitors). I have plenty of experience in public relations roles, and hope to attain some work in care homes/hospices over the summer (prior to starting my PGCE).

Aside from needing to study for the GAMSAT (no easy task, I know), is there any thing else you guys think I could improve on to help supplement my poor educational background.

I appreciate this is a lot of info, so thank you anyone who takes the time to read this entire thing, but for those who didn't, here is the TL;DR summary:

Poor grades in early education.
Have shown a commitment to working hard.
2 years experience teaching technical subjects.


Any input, critical or otherwise is appreciated!

Cheers,
Dave


Whats the point of doing a PGCE if you want to do medicine?

Your poor school academics won't limit you, but your 2:ii will. Research carefully where will accept you (there's only a few places that will).

Definitely try and organise some long-term caring experience. Care homes, as you alluded to, are good places for this.

Have you shadowed any doctors? Do you know what the job entails? Definitely try and get some shadowing done if you haven't already, it gives you a decent feel of the day to day life of a dr.

Also, why all the constant career path changes? CS, law, teaching, now medicine? Make sure you have a good answer for this when interviews come around.

Start revising for the GAMSAT asap.

Other than that, best of luck to you. :smile:


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Original post by hassyrocks
is this graduate entry course who can afford to pay the fees themselves and there is no help from govt. and the student finance? how people could manage paying 10000£ a year? without loans . isn't this really expensive?

You're eligible for maintenance loans from SFE and also half your tuition fees. From 2nd year onwards you can apply for an NHS grant to cover the second half of your fees.
Original post by liam__
Whats the point of doing a PGCE if you want to do medicine?

Your poor school academics won't limit you, but your 2:ii will. Research carefully where will accept you (there's only a few places that will).

Definitely try and organise some long-term caring experience. Care homes, as you alluded to, are good places for this.

Have you shadowed any doctors? Do you know what the job entails? Definitely try and get some shadowing done if you haven't already, it gives you a decent feel of the day to day life of a dr.

Also, why all the constant career path changes? CS, law, teaching, now medicine? Make sure you have a good answer for this when interviews come around.

Start revising for the GAMSAT asap.

Other than that, best of luck to you. :smile:


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Thanks for the advice!

I am completing my PGCE as it means I get my scholarship award (£25k), and it also provides me with a fall back plan if this fails!

The 2:ii definitely limits me, as it means I am only able to apply to St. George's and Nottingham.

I'm in correspondence with care homes at the moment, trying to work out the details, so fingers crossed on that front!

Thus far, I haven't spent any time shadowing doctors, but I will be in contact with several surgeons as well as GP's in the coming days.

I thought the career changes my come back to bite me one day! I chose computer science initially so that I could study artificial intelligence (huge fascination with the brain). When I returned from travelling, the job in the school was the first offered to me, and I needed to recoup some funds urgently! I began teaching because the school was in dire need of the help, and my computer science degree made me the perfect person to help (plus it came with a raise). The aforementioned scholarship is not only huge financially, but in both teaching industry and the computer science industry is incredibly valuable. Studying law was more of a curiosity quencher than anything else. I was studying via distance learning so it was incredibly cheap, and gave me something else to put as a CV booster (or so I thought at the time)!

My GAMSAT prep has already begun, and fortunately, I have several great science teachers around to help me brush up my Chem and Bio!!

Good luck to all applying for 2016!
Original post by Gazoula
Hi Dave,

If you are applying to GAMSAT unis that accept 2ii non science degrees - they will not actually look at your previous records of GCSE and A-Level results - but to be honest - you can confirm this with the Unis for an ease of mind (this was the feedback I got from Plymouth and Exeter for example although both are undergrad entry as they don't have GEM routes) - good luck with it all


Thanks for that!! I have inquired at my only two options (St. George's and Notts) and am waiting to hear back from both!
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Original post by d.holmes1
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Sounds like you're well motivated. I'm a CS grad myself (well, I will be in a month). It's great to have another on tsr applying this cycle!


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Original post by hassyrocks
is this graduate entry course who can afford to pay the fees themselves and there is no help from govt. and the student finance? how people could manage paying 10000£ a year? without loans . isn't this really expensive?


For the Graduate Entry course you fund the first £3500 (roughly) yourself and then the NHS funds the rest. You also get the standard maintenance loan of around £3k.

If you are applying to an undergraduate 5 year course as a graduate you pay for the tuition yourself.

Check the NHS website, TSR graduate medicine page and New media medicine for more info.
Original post by liam__
Sounds like you're well motivated. I'm a CS grad myself (well, I will be in a month). It's great to have another on tsr applying this cycle!


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Nice! Where are you studying?

Yeah, it's good to know there are other people from a technical background (without a bio/chem component)!
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Original post by d.holmes1
Nice! Where are you studying?

Yeah, it's good to know there are other people from a technical background (without a bio/chem component)!


Notts! Hopefully making a return next year for GEM.


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if you have a 2:2 and a masters, Swansea will also take you.

Unsure if a PGCE counts that way mind you. Worth giving them a call though.

http://www.swansea.ac.uk/undergraduate/courses/medicine/mbbchgraduateentrymedicine/#how-to-apply=is-expanded&entry-requirements=is-expanded

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