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Muslim statistics.

The combined annual GDP of 57 Muslim countries remains under $2 trillion.

America, just by herself, produces goods and services worth $10.4 trillion; China $5.7 trillion, Japan $3.5 trillion and Germany $2.1 trillion. Even India’s GDP is estimated at over $3 trillion (purchasing power parity basis).Oil rich Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait and Qatar collectively produce goods and services (mostly oil) worth $430 billion; Netherlands alone has a higher annual GDP while Buddhist Thailand produces goods and services worth $429 billion.

Muslims are 22 percent of the world population and produce less than five percent of global GDP. Even more worrying is that the Muslim countries’ GDP as a percent of the global GDP is going down over time. The Arabs, it seems, are particularly worse off. According to the United Nations’ Arab Development Report: “Half of Arab women cannot read; One in five Arabs live on less than $2 per day; Only 1 percent of the Arab population has a personal computer, and only half of 1 percent use the Internet; Fifteen percent of the Arab workforce is unemployed, and this number could double by 2010; The average growth rate of the per capita income during the preceding 20 years in the Arab world was only one-half of 1 percent per annum, worse than anywhere but sub-Saharan Africa.”

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Original post by capitalismstinks
The combined annual GDP of 57 Muslim countries remains under $2 trillion.

America, just by herself, produces goods and services worth $10.4 trillion; China $5.7 trillion, Japan $3.5 trillion and Germany $2.1 trillion. Even India’s GDP is estimated at over $3 trillion (purchasing power parity basis).Oil rich Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait and Qatar collectively produce goods and services (mostly oil) worth $430 billion; Netherlands alone has a higher annual GDP while Buddhist Thailand produces goods and services worth $429 billion.

Muslims are 22 percent of the world population and produce less than five percent of global GDP. Even more worrying is that the Muslim countries’ GDP as a percent of the global GDP is going down over time. The Arabs, it seems, are particularly worse off. According to the United Nations’ Arab Development Report: “Half of Arab women cannot read; One in five Arabs live on less than $2 per day; Only 1 percent of the Arab population has a personal computer, and only half of 1 percent use the Internet; Fifteen percent of the Arab workforce is unemployed, and this number could double by 2010; The average growth rate of the per capita income during the preceding 20 years in the Arab world was only one-half of 1 percent per annum, worse than anywhere but sub-Saharan Africa.”


They ruled by dictatorships or originally were of which i acknowledge due to the Arab spring (really winter) has resulted in some form of democracy with a lot of corruption, mismanagement, Islamic terrorist insurgencys- which results in most money going towards security matters, unaccepting/uncomfortable of certain aspects of science (like evolution), dislike of usury, some countries education system based on religion too much.......essentially anything but Islam is responsible for the sad state of affairs of the muslim world (especially colonial west- although other countries victim to western colonialism are doing quite good like India, china, brazil, mexico)

also back in the days of the caliphate economy must have been quite big
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The only reason why those muslim countries got anywhere was because of the oil, it was the only thing the world wanted / wants from them. When that goes they'll go down too if they don't diversify their economies a bit. Dubai is doing that now though, catering for the very rich for big profits.
Original post by BrightBlueLight
Muslim countries are backwards, non-progressive and primitive. This is what Islam does to countries. If you transplanted Europeans into Muslim countries they would be transformed very quickly.


The West tried that.

We created many fledgling societies and economies, such as pre-Great War Egypt, Nigeria and Israel.

Yet all of them are being threatened by Islam.

Let's admit it straight on the go - if the Arab world did not have oil, we would have embargoed them a long time ago already. The area is simply not worth the bother, and ought to be fenced off for the security of the West.

Middle East future is very bleak once oil reserves start running out in the middle of this century.
Yeah, that's screwed up. Not all bad for Islam though, some nations prosper financially.

GDP per capita:
1 Qatar143,4272 Luxembourg92,0493 Singapore82,7624 Brunei73,2335 Kuwait71,0206 Norway66,9377 United Arab Emirates64,4798 San Marino60,6649 Switzerland58,087— Hong Kong54,72210 United States54,59711 Saudi Arabia52,18312 Bahrain51,714
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Original post by capitalismstinks
The combined annual GDP of 57 Muslim countries remains under $2 trillion.

America, just by herself, produces goods and services worth $10.4 trillion; China $5.7 trillion, Japan $3.5 trillion and Germany $2.1 trillion. Even India’s GDP is estimated at over $3 trillion (purchasing power parity basis).Oil rich Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait and Qatar collectively produce goods and services (mostly oil) worth $430 billion; Netherlands alone has a higher annual GDP while Buddhist Thailand produces goods and services worth $429 billion.


GDP is not a good indicator of wealth when comparing countries with vastly different populations. GDP per capita is a much better indicator. For example, the average Qatari is nearly three times as wealthy as the average American, over 10 times as wealthy as the average Chinese and wealthier than an average Japanese, German and Dutch person combined. The average Kuwaiti and Emirati are also wealthier than your average American. Your average Saudi is just about as wealthy as your average American.

You're trying to make the case that ''Muslim Country = Poor Economy'' but this isn't always true. Sure there are poor Muslim dominated countries but there are also rich ones. Christianity and Buddhism have this too.
Average GDP per capita of the 57 muslim countries vs average GDP per capita of rest of world would be a better comparison.
Original post by quantum gravity
also back in the days of the caliphate economy must have been quite big

Yeah the widespread practice of slavery would have been great for the Ottoman Empire's GDP.
I am so sad. I am muslim myself and my parents tell me to stay away from muslims.

she is scared of them attacking or brainwashing.

Thank you ISIS, Thank you. what a great reputation you have given
Outdated statistics and economically challenged. op knows squat
Original post by SHallowvale
GDP is not a good indicator of wealth when comparing countries with vastly different populations. GDP per capita is a much better indicator. For example, the average Qatari is nearly three times as wealthy as the average American, over 10 times as wealthy as the average Chinese and wealthier than an average Japanese, German and Dutch person combined. The average Kuwaiti and Emirati are also wealthier than your average American. Your average Saudi is just about as wealthy as your average American.

You're trying to make the case that ''Muslim Country = Poor Economy'' but this isn't always true. Sure there are poor Muslim dominated countries but there are also rich ones. Christianity and Buddhism have this too.


Lets be honest, if it wasn't for western oil money, those Arab billionaires would still be driving camels instead of Lambourginis
Original post by KimKallstrom
Lets be honest, if it wasn't for western oil money, those Arab billionaires would still be driving camels instead of Lambourginis


Absolutely. This would be the case regardless of their religion.

I think without oil the Middle East would be far poorer as it's geography is not suitable for modern economic development.
Original post by KimKallstrom
Lets be honest, if it wasn't for western oil money, those Arab billionaires would still be driving camels instead of Lambourginis


Do you really think the Arabs would give a crap?

By their very nature, Arabs are essentially nomads and are found wanting for "Western luxuries"? These people are those who would have no qualms to going back and riding camels.

The fact that vast material wealth has brought with it some perks like Lambo's is irrelevant.

Who do you think will have a better chance of adjusting to life if technology just one day stops dead? You, or the Arabs? Without a shred of doubt, it would be the Arabs.
Original post by capitalismstinks
The combined annual GDP of 57 Muslim countries remains under $2 trillion.

America, just by herself, produces goods and services worth $10.4 trillion; China $5.7 trillion, Japan $3.5 trillion and Germany $2.1 trillion. Even India’s GDP is estimated at over $3 trillion (purchasing power parity basis).Oil rich Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait and Qatar collectively produce goods and services (mostly oil) worth $430 billion; Netherlands alone has a higher annual GDP while Buddhist Thailand produces goods and services worth $429 billion.

Muslims are 22 percent of the world population and produce less than five percent of global GDP. Even more worrying is that the Muslim countries’ GDP as a percent of the global GDP is going down over time. The Arabs, it seems, are particularly worse off. According to the United Nations’ Arab Development Report: “Half of Arab women cannot read; One in five Arabs live on less than $2 per day; Only 1 percent of the Arab population has a personal computer, and only half of 1 percent use the Internet; Fifteen percent of the Arab workforce is unemployed, and this number could double by 2010; The average growth rate of the per capita income during the preceding 20 years in the Arab world was only one-half of 1 percent per annum, worse than anywhere but sub-Saharan Africa.”


You seem to be under the illusion that goal for everyone is to increase their economic output.

Unfortunately for you, many do not play by your rules.
Original post by capitalismstinks
The combined annual GDP of 57 Muslim countries remains under $2 trillion.

America, just by herself, produces goods and services worth $10.4 trillion; China $5.7 trillion, Japan $3.5 trillion and Germany $2.1 trillion. Even India’s GDP is estimated at over $3 trillion (purchasing power parity basis).Oil rich Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait and Qatar collectively produce goods and services (mostly oil) worth $430 billion; Netherlands alone has a higher annual GDP while Buddhist Thailand produces goods and services worth $429 billion.

Muslims are 22 percent of the world population and produce less than five percent of global GDP. Even more worrying is that the Muslim countries’ GDP as a percent of the global GDP is going down over time. The Arabs, it seems, are particularly worse off. According to the United Nations’ Arab Development Report: “Half of Arab women cannot read; One in five Arabs live on less than $2 per day; Only 1 percent of the Arab population has a personal computer, and only half of 1 percent use the Internet; Fifteen percent of the Arab workforce is unemployed, and this number could double by 2010; The average growth rate of the per capita income during the preceding 20 years in the Arab world was only one-half of 1 percent per annum, worse than anywhere but sub-Saharan Africa.”


This is true, i agree with you. The muslim world has turned backwards and to thiink it was once a great civilization.
Can you imagine the state of the Arab and Islamic world if they hadn't happened to invade, conquer and steal lands that were full of Oil & Gas?
Original post by LockheedSpooky
Can you imagine the state of the Arab and Islamic world if they hadn't happened to invade, conquer and steal lands that were full of Oil & Gas?


Er, still richer than you?
Original post by The_Mighty_Bush
Yeah the widespread practice of slavery would have been great for the Ottoman Empire's GDP.


Slavery/human trafficking must have helped the previous caliphates allot.
OP does make a good point.

If we look at GDP per capita PPP then of 50 Muslim majority countries (Pew Report 2010), there are 13 above the global average and a 2 of them are not in the Middle East/Africa. Of the other 11 just 3 them are democracies.

Unfortunately, i don't believe that the populations of Islamic nations value liberty and this makes them culturally inferior to the west.
Original post by Rakas21
OP does make a good point.

If we look at GDP per capita PPP then of 50 Muslim majority countries (Pew Report 2010), there are 13 above the global average and a 2 of them are not in the Middle East/Africa. Of the other 11 just 3 them are democracies.

Unfortunately, i don't believe that the populations of Islamic nations value liberty and this makes them culturally inferior to the west.


I agree that's true for many (possibly the majority) of Islamic countries, but you can't generalise. I come from a Muslim-majority democratic country which is embarrisngly pro-American, and where American flags hugely outnumber those of any other foreign country at celebrations. So I don't think it's totally impossible.

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