The Israel/Palestine Conflict Mk. IV

I believe I am answering you respectfully and with full consideration. That is certainly my intention. But there is just so much in what you write that screams of a total unfamiliarity with this region and its situation and history. You write that Every aspect of this is simply incorrect and/or poorly understood. 'East Jerusalem' in general is not holy for Muslims. The al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, contained within what Muslims call the Haram-al-Sharif, is considered the third holiest site in Islam. This is just a tiny part of 'East Jerusalem.' This location is also known as the Temple Mount, and was the location of the First and Second Jewish Temples long before the rise of Islam, and is the holiest site in Judaism. The Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif, the part of East Jerusalem which is holy to both Jews and Muslims, is currently governed by Muslim religious authorities. Furthermore, 'East Jerusalem' was not 'given to the Israeli community.' It was captured by Israel from Jordan in 1967, after it had been captured by Jordan in 1948.

But then it got attacked and had to take the land to defend itself...unless you're suggesting you would have preferred Israel to keel over and let itself be destroyed?

I'm sure there was a conflict in 1948 for territory which was not started by Israel? Please correct me if I'm wrong!

If I wanted to go to my mosque in, let's say, London but i couldn't access that area at all, what would I do? I couldn't go in due to a lack of access. Third holiest place or not, a mosque is a holy place for muslims who have every right to enter. That is hard when it is in a country like Israel.

Ok so this is a conflict which has been going on for well over 6 decades. What I want to know is who is to blame? My opinion at the moment is Israel is pushing things too far. Building on Palestinian land and breaking international laws. Oh and let's not forget the number of casualties in Palestine in comparison to Israel. Big difference.

I'd like to know what your opinions are. Who agrees and who disagrees?

Israel are the oppressors. Just murdering and massacring the Arabs one by one and stealing their land

Good.

Good? You heartless pig. What have those innocent women and children ever done?

Idk, lived like savages?

Israel is a great and civilised country. Please tell me what the Palestinian barbarians have contributed to civilisation in comparison.

I don't give a hoot about people who vote for terrorists. They have it good in Israel.

Israel has the blood of the innocent on its hands

Savages and terrorists cannot be innocent.

Your Arab bias is playing up.

I back Israel all the way. If they decide to nuke all of Palestine, I would back them.

The driving problem is and always has been the colonisation of Palestine which was always the mission of Zionism. Policies of both sides can be criticised from both practical and moral standpoints, but these ultimately only shape the pattern of the conflict rather than drive it. The right of Palestinians to resist their colonisation and dispossession does not, of course, make every act that purports to be part of that resistance right.

Ending a colonial policy does not mean reversing it; trying to do so would be both implausible and wrong. However it requires at least some sort of equality of agreement, and ideally redress as well (the latter most likely requiring a one-state solution, while the former not necessarily).

Idk, lived like savages?

Israel is a great and civilised country. Please tell me what the Palestinian barbarians have contributed to civilisation in comparison.

I don't give a hoot about people who vote for terrorists. They have it good in Israel.

No, you are a filthy Jew supremacist. Please leave the West immediately.

And don't bother crying pathetic crocodile tears about that being 'anti-semitic' because I'm in fact parodying the drivel you wrote by replacing the word Arab with Jew. Note that Arabs are Semites.

His name says it all.
'The Dictator' - more like 'Wannabe-the-next-Jewish-tyrant'.

What's funny about him is he hates the Palestinians for doing what Israel does to them. How does that work, exactly?
That's like me saying 'Don't you, ChampEon, dare come near my darling mother, though I have just killed yours, you TERRORIST!'

(This whole 'terrorist' thing is also just semantics. The Oxford-American-Israel World Dictionary tampers with its meaning as and when it sees fit - not fooling anybody).

This thread is the equivalent of an Atheist saying:


'What do you think of religion; btw I think Muhammad was a paedophile, a warlord, a mass-murderer and a child molester'



I'm not saying that Atheists should make such a thread (it's clearly immature and insensitive), but a lot of Muslims on this website behave in a way which is very caustic towards other people's religion as well as people who simply question Islam and when people create things such as the ex-Muslim thread in response to this, they then go on to claim that this website is racist and Islamophobic despite their constant antagonism towards everyone else

Israel is a great and civilised country. Please tell me what the Palestinian barbarians have contributed to civilisation in comparison.