I'm a 2:2 graduate I can't even get minimum wage jobs

This corporate vs startup world deabate is a non-starter. It's like saying what is better jam or marmalade. They are different. Perks/benefits from the corporate world is better. In the startup world it is worse, but there is more reward i.e. career progression at a faster rate and equity.

Feel free to PM me Hobbit, it would be good to hear what you are up to.

Computer science is a challenging degree compared to other degree. Other subjects you can get away with making mistakes and come out with a good grade whereas in my degree if we couldn't hand in a working program we would pretty much fail the module

I think grads today have to be willing to be mobile and leave their home towns. Take me for example. Although I'm no longer going to university, I've opted to join the navy instead on a cadetship sponsored by a major company(won't say which) for 3 years. I will then be qualified to work on any ship in the navy across the entire planet. I'm willing to go anywhere I need to make money to survive and I'm only 19. Sure, it seems like an extreme thing to do but I'm willing to do it. You have to be willing to put yourself into the most extreme situations to get your start in life.

**** YOU. YOU DID NOT GET A JOB AS a ****IN' 13 YEAR OLD THAT IS ILLEGAL!!! IF ANYONE GAVE ME A JOB AT THAT AGE MY MUM WOULD HAVE CALLED THE POLICE. I am VERY ****ING ANGRY TO THINK A ****ING 13 YEAR OLD COULD HAVE HAD A JOB WHEN I COULDN'T **** YOU.

And thats it. Most people butthurt about being unemployed (see the idiot above) are not willing to commute or move anywhere else to find work. They claim they will do any job, but they won't. They will do any job that is within 2 miles of their home, or has very specific hours, or pays 40k a year, or doesn't involve any manual labour etc etc. You can't be that picky.

A while back there was complete ****tard with a Philosophy degree who couldn't get a job. She was being refused her Job Seeker because they had found her a job in Iceland, but she didn't want it because she was "above" it.

Before I went uni I was working part time in Argos literally only making 200-300 a month sometimes. The hours were appalling. In the end I had to find work in a city over an hour and a half away, working 12 hour shifts. Yes I was out for 15 hours (minimum), I would get home, have my dinner and go bed. In the winter with snow it could take me over 3 hours to get home.

My employer was desperate for more staff, but nobody wanted to work the hours so instead loads of Polish people willing to work hard were given the job. While at the same time the idiots (see above again) complain about unemployed.

The Eastern Europeans at my old job were packing for 12 hours a day, an awful job. Some of the guys there were actually very intelligent and because they worked hard they were given a chance and now have proper jobs within the company. Some of them earning around 32k... People in this country need to have the same attitude. But no, they want it all now.

Good read that was. Hopefully once I am a qualified navigation officer in 3 years time, I'll be able to start on around £24-£27K a year. It will be tough work and involve me being away for long periods of time but then I get long periods of time at home as well. I'm not excited about it but you have to do what you have to do to get by well in life. My eventual aim would be to try and work on super yachts which would be sweet. I admire the work ethic of the easterners because they realise that to live a good lifestyle, they need to work for it and I think to a degree for some people in this country, they don't understand that anymore.

You have the right attitude mate, and I'm sure you'll do well. Good luck.

Makes me angry I gotta admit, I don't understand why my mum said it was illegal. I never even tried for that reason. And I don't see how you could get a job without experience either. I think you must have known someone at the company or just been incredibly lucky, that's what my mum always says when I bring up the topic of teen employment. I would have loved to have had some money and independence at that age, I was only just being allowed to go out by myself at that age.

Wait.

what. the. ****.

You're presumably about 21 and you've NEVER had a job?

Jesus christ, be glad they'll let you work for free. Most people your age will have been in consistent employment for the past 5 years.

I had probably done about 10-12 different jobs by the time I finished uni and could have got a glowing reference off any one of them.

I'm 24 in precisely a month's time and I've never had a job.

How have you survived not working at that age. I ask only out of curiosity.

What do you mean, 'survived'?

I finished my GCSES, went and did A-Levels, took a year out to get some 'work' before university which never materialised because most employers don't take on people who are about to go to university, went to university did my degree and here I am.

I had problems at one of my colleges so had to switch colleges which put me a year behind everyone else.

I mean survived in terms of providing for yourself because you say you have never had a job. Do you still live with your parents or did you fall onto JSA or are you getting money by other means. Nothing wrong with any of those, you got to do what you must to survive.

I'm 24 in precisely a month's time and I've never had a job.

I find that incredibly bizarre. I just come from a culture (England) where you learn to work as early as you are able, just because you do. Whether or not you get paid is irrelevant. I was working for 3 years before I got my first paycheck.

Life is tough. If you want to make something of it you have to put the effort in.

It's quite irritating how employers don't care about your university and just filter out below 2.1 by default. An AAA student could've worked twice as hard on their degree and walk out with a 2.2. Meanwhile, a BCC student can coast through their degree and not be filtered out. They don't care for the fact that a 2.2 graduate could still have a much better CV than many 2.1 applicants. Sorry to sound arrogant.

I find that incredibly bizarre. I just come from a culture (England) where you learn to work as early as you are able, just because you do. Whether or not you get paid is irrelevant. I was working for 3 years before I got my first paycheck.

Life is tough. If you want to make something of it you have to put the effort in.