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Original post by yt7777
Imperial do Computing not CompSci :wink:

you can only do Maths + CompSci at imperial

I know its not but im still at a very good university and also how many people do you know at imperial :P


Fair enough.
Most of my friends
Original post by yt7777
Not trying to 'big up' BTECs, I am saying there are so many misconceptions by little brats who are still at school who think that A levels are the only route to success, wait until you go into the real world, people will just laugh at you if you try and justify your competencies through your A level grades :tongue: BTECs are very good qualifications and are respected in industry + offer better employability than A levels at graduate and school leaver level,

I did a Computing BTEC and it was so much better than Computing A level its ridiculous in terms of course content, assessment and employment options, I'm a second year CompSci student at Royal Holloway, University of London


I agree with you. I did look down on BTECs just because they didn't do exam, but they do have a heavy load of coursework to get top levels (distinction*). I agree that BTEC are more specialised into what you want to study at University. My sister achieved a 6.4 average at GCSE and went on to study Sports Science BTEC (Lv3) alongside an AS&A2 level Spanish and achieved D*D*D*B, she got offers from all the universities she applied to, including Bath, top for Sport Science.

BTECs are much more specialised, if you show interest and get top marks, I think they would look favourably on your application.

Good Luck :smile:
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Original post by Jacques1st
As and Bs. I wasn't sure I whated to seek a carrer in the police or be a secondary school teacher in history. I've more or less decided on being a history teacher. In theory I could do the BTEC for 2 years, then go to university and study history, do my PGSE. However I don't find the course enjoyable. I don't see it as academically challenging, which I like. I also prefer an exam setting as I find it rewarding and fun to look forward to. Like to 'show off' kind of in an exam. Lol

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Oh okay lol. Hope everything works out for you :smile:
Haha...Iove this thread...and I'm not laughing at the person doing a btec but the ones saying how he/she has f***ed up their life....hahaha...are you serious???
Reply 24
Original post by seizetoday
Fair enough.
Most of my friends

Well then you have a very smart friend group :P Imperial take in 168 students across all their Computing courses, and this includes all the international students there too, so in response to what you said originally 'Aint CompSci at Imperial doe' - it isnt a reality for most people to get into imperial for Computing (168 out of more than 7 billion people in the world, and that isnt really a valid point to judge someone's university on, I still go to a good university always in the higher quarter of the league tables and I shouldn't find it hard to get a decent job when I graduate with my degree and my experience (fingers crossed anyway)

My original post on this thread was to someone who said because the OP did BTEC they were not smart enough for A levels and had ****ed up their life, I was only disproving and challenging the ignorance of stupid people like that
Reply 25
Original post by lizmoo0721
I agree with you. I did look down on BTECs just because they didn't do exam, but they do have a heavy load of coursework to get top levels (distinction*). I agree that BTEC are more specialised into what you want to study at University. My sister achieved a 6.4 average at GCSE and went on to study Sports Science BTEC (Lv3) alongside an AS&A2 level Spanish and achieved D*D*D*B, she got offers from all the universities she applied to, including Bath, top for Sport Science.

BTECs are much more specialised, if you show interest and get top marks, I think they would look favourably on your application.

Good Luck :smile:

Thank you :smile:

you're correct the work load is massive and not only that to get the top grades it needs to be to a very good standard too, for example, i had a written assignment last year at uni and it was very very similar to one that I did 2 years previous in my BTEC, I re-used my own work to form around 1200/1500 words of it and then just made it flow and tidied it up a bit and got a first (73%) for that piece of work.

They do look good on your application and also they have the added bonus of a relevant work placement which I have been told by people in the IT industry looks really good and will put me in good ahead of some people when applying for graduate jobs and intern-ships.
Original post by yt7777
A levels and BTEC cover the same content to the same level, How have they ****ed up their life? I did BTEC at college (that being said mine was 5 days per week) and im a second year Computer Science student at a good university, you dont know what you're talking about, A levels mean nothing in the real world


your fucin insane if you think that a levels and btecs are comparable, just stand outside the local college :colone:
Reply 27
Original post by judogainz
your fucin insane if you think that a levels and btecs are comparable, just stand outside the local college :colone:


You're* :wink:

You clearly have no idea, I have experience of both Computing A level and Computing BTEC and the Computing BTEC is a better choice, course content is near enough the same, BTEC gives better practical skills as well as the theory and the employability statistics are much higher
Original post by yt7777
You're* :wink:

You clearly have no idea, I have experience of both Computing A level and Computing BTEC and the Computing BTEC is a better choice, course content is near enough the same, BTEC gives better practical skills as well as the theory and the employability statistics are much higher


Source?
Reply 29
Original post by judogainz
Source?


Graduates:

- BTEC + Degree = 80% employment
- A levels + Degree = 73% employment

Non-Graduates (in professional or managerial positions)

- BTEC = 49%
- A levels = 45%

Also over double the amount of BTEC students (56.1%) go on to study Computing, Engineering, or Business and finance (these are areas of high paying graduate salaries), A level leavers 26.8% (under half the amount) study in these areas

Have a read of these links:

http://www.teachingtimes.com/articles/graduates-vocational-course.htm

http://uk.pearson.com/home/news/2013/may/graduates-are-more-likely-to-be-employed--and-as-likely-to-succe.html
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Original post by greycheck
You're not smart enough for a levels if BTEC was your first choice mate.You've ****ed up your life lmao its too late.


Stop being a dick
Original post by yt7777
Graduates:

- BTEC + Degree = 80% employment
- A levels + Degree = 73% employment

Non-Graduates (in professional or managerial positions)

- BTEC = 49%
- A levels = 45%

Also over double the amount of BTEC students (56.1%) go on to study Computing, Engineering, or Business and finance (these are areas of high paying graduate salaries), A level leavers (26.8% study in these areas)

Have a read of these links:

http://www.teachingtimes.com/articles/graduates-vocational-course.htm

http://uk.pearson.com/home/news/2013/may/graduates-are-more-likely-to-be-employed--and-as-likely-to-succe.html


How come every 'less intelligent person' did btecs but the smarter ones did a levels?
Original post by yt7777
Well then you have a very smart friend group :P Imperial take in 168 students across all their Computing courses, and this includes all the international students there too, so in response to what you said originally 'Aint CompSci at Imperial doe' - it isnt a reality for most people to get into imperial for Computing (168 out of more than 7 billion people in the world, and that isnt really a valid point to judge someone's university on, I still go to a good university always in the higher quarter of the league tables and I shouldn't find it hard to get a decent job when I graduate with my degree and my experience (fingers crossed anyway)

My original post on this thread was to someone who said because the OP did BTEC they were not smart enough for A levels and had ****ed up their life, I was only disproving and challenging the ignorance of stupid people like that



I do indeed. Yes - there are 7 billion people on this planet. No - 7 billion people do not want to do Computing at Imperial. The point I was making is that a very good university for Computing/CompSci is Imperial, rather than Royal Holloway. I'm not saying Royal Holloway is a bad university either.

It is also true indeed that intelligent people can do BTEC instead of A level and do well in life, ofcourse. But from my understanding is that, generally, A levels are more demanding and thus there is a higher proportion of 'intelligent' people doing A levels than BTECs.
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Original post by judogainz
How come every 'less intelligent person' did btecs but the smarter ones did a levels?


I'm not sure if that's entirely true, I'm not being big headed but I certainly wouldn't class myself or any of my friends from my old BTEC class who are also at very good universities (inc. Manchester, KCL, Royal Holloway, Bath, Cardiff, Birmingham and Southampton) studying Computer Science as 'less intelligent'

The reason I chose BTEC was because It was a better choice for the industry that I want to go into, also I didn't see the point in studying 3 other subjects which wouldn't really benefit me when I could study one course with 3 times the content in the area that I wanted to pursue.

You cant judge it like that, judge it on the course content and the prospects you have after completing the course, you do get some idiots doing BTEC because they want to avoid exams, these people usually end up with bad grades or getting kicked off the course and don't end up getting into the industry, I personally believe you find the most passionate people on BTEC courses, the reason that more people do A levels is because they can open up more doors because you can pick more subjects allowing students to go to uni to study a variety of courses also it is viewed as the 'more traditional' route and a lot of the time pressure from schools and parents affect peoples decisions, with BTEC you can be limited to what you can do at uni, but if you know its what you want then why not go for it?
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Reply 34
Original post by seizetoday
I do indeed. Yes - there are 7 billion people on this planet. No - 7 billion people do not want to do Computing at Imperial. The point I was making is that a very good university for Computing/CompSci is Imperial, rather than Royal Holloway. I'm not saying Royal Holloway is a bad university either.

It is also true indeed that intelligent people can do BTEC instead of A level and do well in life, ofcourse. But from my understanding is that, generally, A levels are more demanding and thus there is a higher proportion of 'intelligent' people doing A levels than BTECs.

Fair enough, yes, its excellent, and yes it is better than Royal Holloway but you have proved my point I was making to the other poster, Royal Holloway isnt a bad university at all, infact it is a very good university, and they said the OP had ****ed up their life :P

Yes that is correct as I have previously said some of the people from my BTEC class are at Manchester, KCL, Southampton, Birmingham, Cardiff and Bath, I personally wouldn't class myself as unintelligent at all, the people who give BTEC the bad rep are the ones who pick it purely to avoid exams and dont try and dont even do that well anyway and end up working in unskilled jobs

Also A levels arent necessarily more demanding, with Computing the content is pitched at the same level, I also believe this to be the case with Engineering and Business.
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Reply 35
Got my GCSE's.
Did a 2 year L3 BTEC in Computing.
Did a qualification in Computer Aided Engineering (CAD).
Studied Computer Science at undergraduate level.
Now run my own business that branches the digital marketing and technology industry.
Making good money and living a comfortable life near a beach whilst my friends slave away in a corporate job.
If this is failing life then I'm happy to have failed. All those who won, I hope you enjoy your 9 to 5 slavery.
Reply 36
Original post by judogainz
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Replied to your Use of Maths thread btw, let me know if you have any more questions
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Original post by yt7777
Fair enough, yes, its excellent, and yes it is better than Royal Holloway but you have proved my point I was making to the other poster, Royal Holloway isnt a bad university at all, infact it is a very good university, and they said the OP had ****ed up their life :P

Yes that is correct as I have previously said some of the people from my BTEC class are at Manchester, KCL, Southampton, Birmingham, Cardiff and Bath, I personally wouldn't class myself as unintelligent at all, the people who give BTEC the bad rep are the ones who pick it purely to avoid exams and dont try and dont even do that well anyway and end up working in unskilled jobs

Also A levels arent necessarily more demanding, with Computing the content is pitched at the same level, I also believe this to be the case with Engineering and Business.


It's not a bad university, I didn't say it was bad
Reply 38
Original post by seizetoday
It's not a bad university, I didn't say it was bad

I know, you said 'im not saying its a bad university' which its not (it was ranked 12th in the UK when I applied) thus proving my point to the other poster that if you take a BTEC you haven't ****ed up your life, as that is what they told the OP

And to be honest going to any university and getting a degree is hardly ****ing up your life, some people are just deluded into thinking if you dont go to a top 10 university you will be a failure in life
Its okay because its your first day, its not too late to change to a levels but it will require determination and hard work. Also, my friend who is doing a levels only has to go to college for 3days a week- you're expected to do more private study. Good luck :smile:

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