Islamophobic crime up by 70% in London

There is no such thing as Islamophobia...

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Original post by The Dictator

There is no such thing as Islamophobia...

People used to say "There is no such thing as anti Semitism" The far right refer to Muslims as "rats" in the same way the Nazis called Jews "rats"

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Which is what the organisation quoted in the article does:Let's have a look at this organisation, Tell MAMA:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/10108098/Muslim-hate-monitor-to-lose-backing.htmlThe project, called Tell Mama, claimed that there had been a “sustained wave of attacks and intimidation” against British Muslims after the killing of Drummer Lee Rigby, with 193 “Islamophobic incidents” reported to it, rising to 212 by last weekend.Tell Mama and Mr Mughal did not mention, however, that 57 per cent of the 212 reports referred to activity that took place only online, mainly offensive postings on Twitter and Facebook, or that a further 16 per cent of the 212 reports had not been verified. Not all the online abuse even originated in Britain.Contrary to the group’s claim of a “cycle of violence” and a “sustained wave of attacks”, only 17 of the 212 incidents, 8 per cent, involved the physical targeting of people and there were no attacks on anyone serious enough to require medical treatment.

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Original post by The_Internet

So? Disliking Islam doesn't mean you have to hate Muslims. Just because "Islam is not a race" it doesn't excuse you from hating Muslims... Not all jews are ethnically Jewish, yet it's STILL anti Semitic to hate Jews

When did I say I hate Muslims...? And who said that being "Islamophobic" means you hate Muslims? They might as well rename it "Muslimophobic".

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Docjones1

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Original post by The Dictator

Islam is not a race you fool.

That's irrelevant.

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Docjones1

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Original post by The_Internet

So? Disliking Islam doesn't mean you have to hate Muslims. Just because "Islam is not a race" it doesn't excuse you from hating Muslims... Not all jews are ethnically Jewish, yet it's STILL anti Semitic to hate Jews

Also - Islamophobia is not equal to hating muslims
necessarily

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Schrödingers Cat

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Islamophobia isn't a word and shouldn't be used for such things as violence against Muslims

People should be free to criticise barbaric and backwards ideologies such as Islam otherwise if everyone stays quite and is afraid of speaking out in case they're "islamophobic" we might end up in in a society where gays are thrown off roofs and women are slaves in the houses.

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Original post by Docjones1

Also - Islamophobia is not equal to hating muslims
necessarily

Maybe so, but "anti Semitism" doesn't actually mean "hating jews" but it's COME to mean that.

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callum_law

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Original post by The Dictator

Islam is not a race you fool.

How does the term Islamophobia (aversion to Islam etymologically) suppose any racial component?

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Original post by Schrödingers Cat

Islamophobia isn't a word and shouldn't be used for such things as violence against Muslims

People should be free to criticise barbaric and backwards ideologies such as Islam otherwise if everyone stays quite and is afraid of speaking out in case they're "islamophobic" we might end up in in a society where gays are thrown off roofs and women are slaves in the houses.

That's not what Islamophobia is and it clearly is a word, if it's in the dictionary... You're OK with people doing to Muslims what they did to the Jews?

Disliking Islam does not = Islamophobia. Hating Muslims does.

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Original post by The_Internet

Maybe so, but "anti Semitism" doesn't actually mean "hating jews" but it's COME to mean that.

Jews are Semites. The term is used correctly except that it's a bit to broad in its original meaning (Arabs are also Semites).

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Original post by The Dictator

When did I say I hate Muslims...? And who said that being "Islamophobic" means you hate Muslims? They might as well rename it "Muslimophobic".

You can tell that from your posts and see my other comment re: anti Semitism.

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Docjones1

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Original post by The_Internet

Maybe so, but "anti Semitism" doesn't actually mean "hating jews" but it's COME to mean that.

Yes but it can also mean hating Judiasm, as can Islamophobia refer to dislike of Islam in proper sense and hatred of muslims in modern sense.

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Original post by The Dictator

Jews are Semites. The term is used correctly except that it's a bit to broad in its original meaning (Arabs are also Semites).

Not all Jews are Semites
Language changes. Gay used to mean "to be happy" Today it means to be homosexual.

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Original post by The_Internet

You can tell that from your posts and see my other comment re: anti Semitism.

I don't hate Muslims, in fact one of my heroes, the Shah of Iran, who is in my avatar, was a Muslim, as is a relative of mine...but I'm not particularly worried about your unworthy opinion. Being critical of Islam = racism according to people like you.

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Original post by The Dictator

I don't hate Muslims, in fact one of my heroes, the Shah of Iran, who is in my avatar, was a Muslim, as is a relative of mine...but I'm not particularly worried about your unworthy opinion. Being critical of Islam = racism according to people like you.

Er.. no that doesn't equal racism in my books. Your posts on TSR in general come across as that...

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