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Why should we not aspire to become the most moral people of Europe?

Rather than allow post 1960s western liberal democratic values to sink Britain further in to the moral abyss with things like teen pregnancy, alcohol addiction, neglect of the elderly, venereal disease, geriatric mothers etc...Should we not take advantage of the multicultural gift that we have been granted and take a leaf out of Muslim/Asian culture. All it requires a politician with real guts, integrity and purity to have the balls to get the root of all the immorality and stamp it out once and for all.

I don't care whether its Sharia or whatever it is, just someone needs to really come down hard on teen sluts and those that don't respect education or the sanctity of the nuclear family. Bread and butter stuff here; mother, father and one or two kids. Not fathers here/mothers there or kids with ludicrous names that see one parents every 2 weeks, instead the sold bedrock of family life that was here pre60's. Youth that do not show respect to education or who get pregnant or consume alcohol need to be publicly punished. Why doesn't hardly anybody seem to want to revert to this (superior) way of living. Because handing out condoms and benefits like confetti is only making the problem worse......

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Muslim culture and pre 1960's English values are two totally different things
Morality is expensive.
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There's certainly been a cultural and moral decline over time however I think a far more pressing issue is the immorality of the UK not defending the peoples of the Middle East and Ukraine.
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Original post by Infraspecies
Morality is expensive.


No it's not.
Original post by NHM713
No it's not.


No, it isn't.
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Europe is morally decadent, especially because of atheism, feminism and ultra liberalism.
Lol sounds like OP is muslim *yawn* only a muslim would imply sharia or islamic 'customs' are equivalent to pre-1960s morality.
Teen mothers, really, you are about 20 years late for that particular confected moral panic. It's all about blaming immigrants, unemployed and disabled nowadays.
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Original post by Infraspecies
No, it isn't.


You agree?

Quick turnaround.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by NHM713
You agree?

Quick turnaround.


Or I was lying the first time, and you didn't see it.
But shairah is more immoral than any of the things you mentioned.
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Original post by Infraspecies
Or I was lying the first time, and you didn't see it.


Or maybe it wasn't very apparent you were being sarcastic.
Original post by NHM713
Or maybe it wasn't very apparent you were being sarcastic.


Well clearly that's true, but that's okay, I'm charitable enough to not blame you for missing it.
Come on guys, don't feed the troll!!
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Original post by Infraspecies
Well clearly that's true, but that's okay, I'm charitable enough to not blame you for missing it.


Your charitability has been noted. :biggrin:
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Teen mothers, really, you are about 20 years late for that particular confected moral panic. It's all about blaming immigrants, unemployed and disabled nowadays.


Young mothers are still at epidemic levels.
Publicly punished? How about stoning? That isn't immoral, is it?

Handing out condoms in immoral? Are STIs are better alternative?

Next you are going to say homosexuality is immoral.
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OP has an understandable concern, but it is questionable whether any change can come from europeans themselves. Europe has completely been disengaged from its religious roots and has lost its inner strength - strength, which is derived from values that people are willing to die for.

Many people have become complacent and soft while lacking any sort of principles to live by. They consider their existence not as something that they need to earn or even be willing to defend - rather it's a right that must be provided for them by someone (mostly the government).

A self-centered and self-indulgent convenient lifestyle is not a strong foundation for vibrant civilization.
Original post by Zorgotron
OP has an understandable concern, but it is questionable whether any change can come from europeans themselves. Europe has completely been disengaged from its religious roots and has lost its inner strength - strength, which is derived from values that people are willing to die for.

Many people have become complacent and soft while lacking any sort of principles to live by. They consider their existence not as something that they need to earn or even be willing to defend - rather it's a right that must be provided for them by someone (mostly the government).

A self-centered and self-indulgent convenient lifestyle is not a strong foundation for vibrant civilization.


So people need God/Religion (a man made system) to change their behaviour?

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