Corbyn voted new labour leader.

Reply 40

Josb

6

No Labour for ten years. :u:

Reply 41

heimdala

Original post by Gears265

Majority of Labour voters I know have said they will go to UKIP of jeremy is elected. Just because a few hundred thousand shout loud on the Internet and on the streets does not reflect the opinion of millions of working class voters. You do not win over people concerned about immigration, the EU, the economy, islamification and defence by being pro immigration, pro EU, anti market economy, pro islamification and anti defence.

Hear, hear. However he will probably win back a large part of Scotland, which is great for us unionists.

Reply 42

Errm32

Original post by Mad Vlad

I don't think anyone's going to be complacent. The risk of this ****ing idiot getting into power is too great, however unlikely. This is an opportunity to put the foot on the gas and cement a huge majority for 2020.

The ineptitude of Jeremy Corbyn will become irrelevant if the Tories send this country down the pan by 2020.

Reply 43

Little Popcorns

21

Original post by Dylann

Another tory government in 2020 confirmed

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This does worry me.

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Also a lot of pissed off looking party members not just the other candidates.

I just hope we haven't shot ourselves in the foot :frown:

Reply 44

Mr JB

2

Original post by StevePownall

Labour is now unelectable.... just heard speeches, throwback references to the 1970s ..wtf!

Were you around in the 1970's? If not then please give it a rest as you're not talking from experience at all and just chatting hyperbole. The vast majority of people I've spoken to who lived during those times preferred them. Yes, the world was less materialistic but people were more communal and societies were stronger.

The only people who dislike this type of society are people who only care about themselves, possessions and money. These are the sort of people who end up alone and its all their own fault because rather than put people first, they put money first. I've come across these people time and time again and they wonder why they are wealthy and alone. No amount of money can stop a selfish ******** being an selfish ********.

Reply 45

elen90

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Tories all resting on their laurels. Don't get too confident. Cons only won the election by a tiny margin, and many who voted for them did it with no enthusiasm :wink:

Reply 46

RamocitoMorales

21

Original post by Motorbiker

Why do the tories think this is so great? Why do they think corbyn is unelectable?

Because they've been brainwashed to believe so by the countless media stories claiming that he will make Labour 'unelectable'.

Reply 47

Gnomes&Knights

20

I wonder if the Tories are happy.

Reply 48

Hugs31

16

It was nailed on for a while so no surprises really, congratulations to him. Wonder if he'll start wearing a tie now or whether it'll destroy his image because people like the 'no tie thing' (like in The Thick of It) :wink:

(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 49

Mr JB

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Original post by Mactotaur

What makes him an idiot?

The fact he has a difference of opinion and people who haven't ever experienced socialism somehow seem to be experts on the political ideology. These are probably the same morons who think the USSR was actually socialist because it had socialist in the name.

Original post by Bornblue

Yeah how awful would it be if a man who actually cared about people got in?

Terrible. We should all care about money and profits instead. Who cares about the poor? That poor person in the street is poor because its their own fault. Ha! Screw them! Lets skip over them on the way to Starbucks before I then prance on my way to the Apple store to buy a lovely new iPhone. That's obviously more important than the wellbeing of others.

Original post by Errm32

The ineptitude of Jeremy Corbyn will become irrelevant if the Tories send this country down the pan by 2020.

The Tories will be their own undoing.

1) Austerity will push people towards Labour
2) Other than Boris Johnson, no other Tory has any charisma whatsoever - Dan Hannan is the closest to anyone else with an ounce of personality. Their best bet is to beg David Cameron to stay on.
3) If there is another financial crisis, as many economists predict, then it will destroy the complete myth that Labour caused or contributed massively to the global financial crisis

Reply 50

Mad Vlad

19

Original post by Motorbiker

Why do the tories think this is so great? Why do they think corbyn is unelectable?

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Because while ardent trade unionists and people so left wing as to spend money on funding the Labour Party, may find his politics very appealing on an ideological level, nobody else does. Yes, he represents "different" politics, but fundamentally, all he will do is appeal to existing Labour voters, not to the centre ground, not to the voters who voted Tory in May, not to the constituencies that labour failed to capture.
A Blairite candidate would be had much more cross-party appeal and might have stood a very reasonable chance of winning in 2020, but this I feel is a very very bad move for Labour.

Reply 51

Mad Vlad

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Original post by Errm32

The ineptitude of Jeremy Corbyn will become irrelevant if the Tories send this country down the pan by 2020.

So, not likely to happen then. What suggestion is there that the country is going to go down the pan? There seems to be a lot of positive movement as it stands right now.

Reply 52

StevePownall

6

Yes, I was around in the 1970s actually, I am a mature student!! :u:

And you are very, very wrong on 'people preferred those times' - rose-tinted spectacles. I remember 3 day weeks, rolling power cuts, unions holding the country to ransom. I am not a Tory by any stretch of the imagination but at the end of the day, there are poor and wealthy people, that will never change; what is needed is an effective opposition party (don't care which) that can hold the Tories to account - Labour Corbyn is not it. Enough said.

Original post by Mr JB

Were you around in the 1970's? If not then please give it a rest as you're not talking from experience at all and just chatting hyperbole. The vast majority of people I've spoken to who lived during those times preferred them. Yes, the world was less materialistic but people were more communal and societies were stronger.

The only people who dislike this type of society are people who only care about themselves, possessions and money. These are the sort of people who end up alone and its all their own fault because rather than put people first, they put money first. I've come across these people time and time again and they wonder why they are wealthy and alone. No amount of money can stop a selfish ******** being an selfish ********.

Reply 53

SCIENCE :D

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I f he can win back Scotland, Labour will have a great chance.

Reply 54

L'Evil Fish

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Original post by Mr JB

If there is another financial crisis, as many economists predict, then it will destroy the complete myth that Labour caused or contributed massively to the global financial crisis

Yeah, I think stocks are going to crash. As we've seen with China, they were suffering their biggest drops just a few weeks ago, and they're the second largest economy.

It'll have rippling effects, crossing into Germany with their trade links etc.

I hope something happens so then the Tories can't use the same argument they always do, without shooting themselves in the foot.

Reply 55

ChaoticButterfly

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Original post by Motorbiker

Thoughts?

Scared.

Reply 56

De Chirico

9

Labour have made a huge mistake. A vocal and idealistic movement has led to Corbyn being elected but the vast majority of the people you actually speak to think he is way out of touch. Rightly so.

Reply 57

De Chirico

9

Original post by L'Evil Fish

Yeah, I think stocks are going to crash. As we've seen with China, they were suffering their biggest drops just a few weeks ago, and they're the second largest economy.

It'll have rippling effects, crossing into Germany with their trade links etc.

I hope something happens so then the Tories can't use the same argument they always do, without shooting themselves in the foot.

You want a financial crash just to spite the Tories? I have heard it all now.

Reply 58

Errm32

Original post by Mad Vlad

So, not likely to happen then. What suggestion is there that the country is going to go down the pan? There seems to be a lot of positive movement as it stands right now.

As it stands, two things will define the electability of the Tories come 2020:

a) EU Referendum - You better hope that it doesn't split the party.

b) Leadership - It's not going to be Cameron and if the Tories leave it too late, they may not even have an effective leader. Furthermore, going into the election with "two leaders" will no doubt confuse the voters (as one seeks to keep control of government whilst the other tries to get people to vote for him/her for the next election).

Reply 59

Mad Vlad

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Original post by Mr JB

Your complacency and arrogance is what will lead to you losing in 2020. Middle England is a lost cause for Labour.

Labour need:

London
Scotland
Wales
Northern England
Inner city Midlands
Inner city South East

Corbyn is Labour's best chance of regaining votes in these parts of the country. Labour are never going to win in the other places.

Labour's support is concentrated around inner city areas that already vote Labour. You have to appeal to the centre ground in order to win seats. This isn't going to happen.

Original post by Mactotaur

What makes him an idiot?

His ridiculous ideologies demonstrate his incompetence. Socialism doesn't work.

Original post by Bornblue

Yeah how awful would it be if a man who actually cared about people got in?

Don't bother replying with your right wing smears

Oh sod off. You can't censor me because I don't agree with you. I'm pointing out some real and difficult truths about the consequences of this result for your party, today and instead of engaging, you're simply shouting "look at this evil tory over here!" :rolleyes:

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