Palestine campaigners in London call for death of all Israelis

What do you mean "she is not educated on this matter"? She's clearly a complete bitch, with absolutely no consideration or sense of empathy. Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend?

Or do you care to elaborate what you mean by "not educated on this matter"? Perhaps you can tell us where she went wrong and where you disagree with her (if you do disagree at all.. maybe you just think she was not properly educated on the PR aspect of not speaking publicly about what you really believe should happen to Israeli Jews)

I know, this is 100% correct, so many stupid people create this existential enemy and transfer any blame onto them to make up for their own stupidity or even simply the failure of their ideology.

The most important thing would be Jewish people living this country being able to leave before things become too dangerous and this goes for the whole of Europe. Even America I would say is much safer.

Don't care for her lack of empathy or whatever. It's painfully clear she doesn't know the distinction between a Jew and a zionist.

She is even smiling as she knows she is just blathering something that doesn't make any sense. Maybe next time when you want to do your little "interview". Track someone going to a school so you can have stronger case for belittling your opposition.

In that first video with the middle aged woman, I genuinely would have had a hard time not caving her ****ing face in when she said 'what is the Holocaust' and then smiled,

People like Corbyn are the ones I hate the most, the liberal leftists who act self-righteous but associate with these people and act as if it's all ok.

she doesn't know the distinction between a Jew and a zionist.

Don't care for her lack of empathy or whatever. It's painfully clear she doesn't know the distinction between a Jew and a zionist.

She is even smiling as she knows she is just blathering something that doesn't make any sense. Maybe next time when you want to do your little "interview". Track someone going to a school so you can have stronger case for belittling your opposition.

Absolutely. I think the way many on the left use "Zionism" as a kind of term of abuse is very much in that vein. I've met people who think they can be both anti-zionist and in favour of a two-state solution. They think Zionist means "right-wing violent settler" or something like that, not that it is the basic ideology of Israel including the atheist socialists, collectivists and trade unionists who founded the country and ran it for the first 30 years.

And "Zionism" (as they understand, or misunderstand, it) becomes the focus of evil in the modern world (along with America). It becomes, in their minds, a great battle between good and evil, and anyone who isn't 100% on board with their agenda is tacitly supporting evil. And everyone on the other side cannot possibly be pursuing policies they believe, sometimes incorrectly, to be in the best interests of their country. It has to be that it is some kind of conspiracy, that these people are malicious and desirous of carrying out evil actions.



Totally. The situation is much worse in France; it has the largest Jewish population in Europe. They are something like 2% of the population, but they are the victims of 50% of the hate crimes.

In my mind Israel's unique mission is to ensure there will always be a place for Jews to escape to if there was another Holocaust or similar event. There are only 14 million or so Jews in the world, compared to billions of Christians and Muslims. I don't think it's unreasonable that there be at least one place in the world where they are a majority, a strong state which will act as a deterrent to violence against Jews (governments won't want to mess with the Israeli state by persecuting their Jews) and ultimately a safe haven to escape to.

You're right that America is a lot better than Europe in terms of anti-semitism. I mean, in living memory millions of Jews were systematically killed in Europe. And now the modern left and Islamism are reviving many of the tropes about Jews that were floating around in the 1930s

Indeed. And what's remarkable is that in the old days, even when they disagreed with a particular regime, the left would not lose a sense of solidarity with the people. They tended to adopt the position that, in wars, you had to empathise with the working-class boys who did most of the fighting and dying, and that the criticism was against the generals, the governments and so on.

But now so many on the left adopt a position that all Israeli Jews are morally culpable and subject to be killed. They have no sense of empathy for, say, an Israeli lad of an Iraqi Jewish background who was born there, who had no choice in where he was born or in the decisions of earlier Israeli governments.... commenters on this thread tell us this 18 year old lad should be expelled from Israel and sent back to Iraq to die.. in the words of one of them above, "tough luck". The same kind of attitude extends to the American underclass, to American soldiers and so on.

Same again with the homophobia; if you're a gay person in Iran or the Palestinian territories etc. then your death is justifiable on the basis that the Iranian government is "anti-imperialist" and that it is Western decadence to try to impose our views of sexuality on them.

11/10 post. One of the best on here in a while.

I think you're under a misapprehension about what a straw man argument is. Making an observation that you're another internet tough guy who posting ludicrous comments viz. death and genocide makes him hard is not a straw man, it's simply an observation about what a preposterous individual you are.

Actually, no. There were many Arab immigrants to Israel/Palestine in the 19th century, just as there were Jewish immigrants. Yasser Arafat, the acme of Palestinianess, was an Egyptian. But somehow people like you will tell us that the Egyptian Arafat had more rights to the land of Israel/Palestine than a Jewish person whose family never left Palestine

It sounds like you've never actually bothered to look into this subject, and have been content to swallow propaganda whole. Don't tell me, you're another conspiracy theorist who believes that Ashkenazi Jews are really the evil "Khazars"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_of_Jewish_origins

This wiki article will give you a good place to start. Even Ashkenazi Jews from Europe genetically resemble Yemeni Jews, Syrian Jews and so on more than they resemble their European neighbours. The semitic character of Jewish people is not seriously disputed

Jews are the indigenous population of Israel.

Yasser Arafat, the acme of Palestinianess, was an Egyptian.

By this logic, Richard Dawkins is Kenyan, John McCain is Panamanian, and Eamon de Valera was American. Arafat may have been born in Cairo, but both his parents were Palestinian.

It's also worth noting that early Zionist leaders like Herzl, Jabotinsky and Weizmann, referred to the Palestinians as "natives"

There is no evidence of gassed people, or mass extermination in camps.