Muslim kid arrested for bringing home made clock to school

Original post by queen-bee

I'm sure it's common sense. Only if they're guilty. Same goes for all kids. But to single out this particular kid and make a big deal because he happened to be black and a Muslim. Despicable.

Only guilty people should be arrested?

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Original post by DiddyDec

Only guilty people should be arrested?

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Innocent until proven guilty

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Original post by queen-bee

Innocent until proven guilty

Is that a yes or a no?

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Original post by DiddyDec

Is that a yes or a no?

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So you'd arrest an innocent person? That's a yes.

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Musie Suzie

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Original post by Namandi

LOL. There's already a thread about this.

Why is it disgusting that it was mistaken for a bomb?

USA doesn't mess around with security. That is common knowledge.

Once they suspect something could be a threat, they act accordingly.

Even if it is something as small as a pencil case or in this case, a handmade clock, they act accordingly.

Are they paranoid? Perhaps

Would they rather be paranoid than have parents mourning the lives of their children? Definitely

They didn't act accordingly, though. They didn't evacuate the school, as they should have done if they genuinely suspected a bomb. They left Ahmed and the clock alone in a room together. They called the police, but no bomb squad.
And the police apparently questioned Ahmed without his parents present, which I think is illegal as he's a minor.

It doesn't seem like they genuinely thought it was a bomb. It sounds like prejudice.
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Original post by queen-bee

So you'd arrest an innocent person? That's a yes.

That shows your clear lack of understanding of how the law works then. People get arrested when there is reasonable belief that a law has been broken. If there is enough evidence they are taken to court to decide whether they are innocent or guilty. If evidence cannot be brought forward they are released without charge.

So by your logic nobody should ever be arrested as it is not up to the police to decide innocence or guilt.

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Musie Suzie

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Original post by queen-bee

So you'd arrest an innocent person? That's a yes.

Well yes, that's the entire point. You arrest someone if you have reasonable cause to do so, and then set about establishing their guilt or innocence. If they're innocent until proven guilty, every person is "innocent" at the point of arrest. I don't think the police make a habit of arresting anyone already somehow proven innocent.

Think that's what the other poster meant, anyway.

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wiseCrack

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Maybe if he had told his science teacher about it then there would be no big deal but the news report said he brought it in without telling anyone so surely the unknown surprise played a part in him being arrested as the people went in to an alarmed state of panic u know what I mean?

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Lacesso

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It was only a matter of time.

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hasan6091

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Too many right wingers on here trying to making excuses. How can you be so stupid to think that they didnt arrest him because he was muslim . OF COURSE THEY DID, you know for a fact had a white kid done that he would not be arrested. This was not being safe or genuine worry, they just want to fuel the fire for fear mongering and hatred of islam.

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Original post by hasan6091

Too many right wingers on here trying to making excuses. How can you be so stupid to think that they didnt arrest him because he was muslim . OF COURSE THEY DID, you know for a fact had a white kid done that he would not be arrested. This was not being safe or genuine worry, they just want to fuel the fire for fear mongering and hatred of islam.

You're right, it was because he was Muslim. There's a sense of caution when dealing with Muslims, and rightfully so.

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Original post by hasan6091

Too many right wingers on here trying to making excuses. How can you be so stupid to think that they didnt arrest him because he was muslim . OF COURSE THEY DID, you know for a fact had a white kid done that he would not be arrested. This was not being safe or genuine worry, they just want to fuel the fire for fear mongering and hatred of islam.

White children in the US have been arrested for much less than this. Some as young as 5.

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Original post by Musie Suzie

They didn't act accordingly, though. They didn't evacuate the school, as they should have done if they genuinely suspected a bomb. They left Ahmed and the clock alone in a room together. They called the police, but no bomb squad.
And the police apparently questioned Ahmed without his parents present, which I think is illegal as he's a minor.

It doesn't seem like they genuinely thought it was a bomb. It sounds like prejudice.
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Exactly my point.

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Original post by DiddyDec

White children in the US have been arrested for much less than this. Some as young as 5.

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Why was it not on the news? Arrested for what? Were they allowed to call their parents or were they denied this as Ahmed was.

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Original post by queen-bee

Why was it not on the news? Arrested for what? Were they allowed to call their parents or were they denied this as Ahmed was.

I agree that the whole thing was handled badly - they should have evacuated and investigated properly. However imagine if it had been a bomb - everybody would be saying "why didn't the teacher do anything" when he/she would be scared of being branded racist.

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Original post by queen-bee

Why was it not on the news? Arrested for what? Were they allowed to call their parents or were they denied this as Ahmed was.

Because going on a twitter and SJW crusade for a white boy named John isn't as attractive for the pseudo activists on tumblr. I'd be shocked if stuff like that made the local paper, let alone national headlines.

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Original post by Musie Suzie

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And the police apparently questioned Ahmed without his parents present, which I think is illegal as he's a minor.
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No, it's not illegal. Police officers can talk to children, but they are not required to answer and can ask for their parents or for a lawyer to be present.

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