Madeleine McCann investigation 'cost £10 million to date'

She's dead.

I don't care about her, neither should we.

Her parents were stupid enough to leave the door unlocked so they could indulge in their culinary pursuits.

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"culinary pursuits" herein meaning the hanninal lectering of their daughter maddy.


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Yeah, **** the government for using their money trying to catch child traffickers

Imagine how much weed they could have confiscated if they'd put that money into fighting real crime.

You keep justifying their actions with "loads of parents do xyz". It doesn't matter. Outside in the garden at home is a completely different situation, because it is your property, you know your way around it very well, and there's going to be very few entrances and exits. None of these is the case in a hotel, and each of them significantly lowers the risks of leaving your child unattended. What does "safe adults" mean, anyway? As far as a parent (or child, for that matter) should be concerned, no stranger is safe (disregarding police, firemen, et cetera).

Clearly, the authorities and hotel security screwed up big time, and the bulk of the blame lays on them and the criminals themselves, but the fact remains the tragedy could have been avoided if the parents had just been more responsible, so they are not blameless. They were in a foreign country, where vigilance is a necessity, and their daughter paid the price for its absence.

You hear a lot about this girl and her family getting special treatment etc. - does anyone actually know how many other young children that have gone missing in the last 15 years and not been found?

I didn't say they were completely blameless. The thread points I was responding to are those that claim money was badly spent pursuing the case and the justification usually put forwards is that the McCanns are somehow exemplars of bar parenting. My point is that the police investigate lots of abduction cases where the parents may have been lax, this is not that unusual on that point. Also, the child is not to blame if the parents are sloppy or lack diligence.

The point I was responding to was your calling criticism of the parents' methods victim-blaming, and subsequent attempted justification of their actions. If parents are to learn the lessons of this case, and behave properly, then we must not fret around the issue, but state the conclusion clearly: the girl's parents absolutely did the wrong thing. From your repeated defence of them, you seem reluctant to accept that fact.

As an aside, in my experience the arguments put forward against the money spent on the case are usually:
1. She's almost certainly dead by now
2. There are other missing children to worry about

You have no evidence for your final two assertions.

On the question of what I accept or defend, I've read the evidence in detail unlike many people (including, visibly, many posters on this thread) and I don't believe they did anything remotely like neglect. They were a couple of minutes away from the children in what was widely taken to be a very secure environment. The sort of thing that many, many parents have done on similar holidays in similar locations. They were alternating regularly going back to check on them. Again, the sort of thing that many, many parents do.

As I said, the heat over this case constantly directed at the McCanns is a classic case of blame the victims and at the same time is self-centred loathing based on weariness over media exposure. The hate has no relationship to the actual facts of the case.

It also is (sadly) mildly defensive of active paedophiles, as there does seem to still be a tendency in abduction cases to assume that the child or the parents are somehow to blame. Paedophilia thrives in this atmosphere, where instead of directing hate and aggression to the perverted adults engaged in devious criminal abduction and torture of very young children, it is directed against the poor family themselves. Really loathsome reactions and the people having them ought to check their own personalities out and wonder why they want to support the actions of active child snatchers in this way.

A couple of GPs leave their kids in a hotel room to go boozing and they weren't prosecuted?

Liam Neeson couldve found her by now, smh

She's dead.

I don't care about her, neither should we.

Her parents were stupid enough to leave the door unlocked so they could indulge in their culinary pursuits.

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