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I can't figure out this nth term problem.

Hey,

I can't figure out this nth term problem, here is the question:

Here are the first 5 terms of a quadratic sequence.
1, 3, 7, 13, 21
Find an expression, in terms of n for the nth term of this quadratic sequence.

Every answer I get, whether I used second differences, squaring n or using a table seems not to fit the sequence.
I would be grateful if someone could explain how to work this out to me.

Thanks in advance,
George.
Reply 1
Original post by george1990_
Hey,

I can't figure out this nth term problem, here is the question:

Here are the first 5 terms of a quadratic sequence.
1, 3, 7, 13, 21
Find an expression, in terms of n for the nth term of this quadratic sequence.

Every answer I get, whether I used second differences, squaring n or using a table seems not to fit the sequence.
I would be grateful if someone could explain how to work this out to me.

Thanks in advance,
George.


I can see the nth term formula here, so I'm gonna try to help you find your way to it.

First hint: you're on the right track by using n2, so draw out a table of n2 and the values, and see if you can spot a relationship between them.
Reply 2
Original post by Alexion
I can see the nth term formula here, so I'm gonna try to help you find your way to it.

First hint: you're on the right track by using n2, so draw out a table of n2 and the values, and see if you can spot a relationship between them.


Thanks for the reply!

n^2 = 0,1,2,3,4
Difference/Sequence = +1 (to get to the next number)

:smile:
The answer is n^2-n+1

The second difference of the original sequence is halved to obtain the coefficient of n^2, which is 1 in this case.

So, write out the sequence for n^2, which should give you:
1, 4, 9, 16, 25

Then write out the original sequence above this. Take the differences between each part of the sequence, so 1-1, 3-4, 7-9, 13-16, 21-25.
Thus, 0, - 1, - 2, - 3, - 4

The nth term of this sequence forms your next part of your answer.

Therefore, the common difference between each part of this sequence is - 1, since this is the first difference, the nth term will be - n.
Write out the sequence for - n.
Take the differences of the sequence of - n from the difference sequence obtained before which was 0, - 1, - 2, - 3, - 4.

This should leave you with the common difference of +1.

Which means the second part of your answer is -n+1.

The whole answer is therefore n^2-n+1


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Original post by george1990_
Hey,

I can't figure out this nth term problem, here is the question:

Here are the first 5 terms of a quadratic sequence.
1, 3, 7, 13, 21
Find an expression, in terms of n for the nth term of this quadratic sequence.

Every answer I get, whether I used second differences, squaring n or using a table seems not to fit the sequence.
I would be grateful if someone could explain how to work this out to me.

Thanks in advance,
George.


I just read it for 4 minutes but i think the expression is:

f(n) = n^2 - n


try it
Reply 5
Original post by wiseCrack
I just read it for 4 minutes but i think the expression is:

f(n) = n^2 - n


try it


Thanks for the reply, but what is f?
Reply 6
Original post by george1990_
Thanks for the reply, but what is f?


f(n) just means 'a function of n'
Reply 7
Original post by Ishan_2000
The answer is n^2-n+1

The second difference of the original sequence is halved to obtain the coefficient of n^2, which is 1 in this case.

So, write out the sequence for n^2, which should give you:
1, 4, 9, 16, 25

Then write out the original sequence above this. Take the differences between each part of the sequence, so 1-1, 3-4, 7-9, 13-16, 21-25.
Thus, 0, - 1, - 2, - 3, - 4

The nth term of this sequence forms your next part of your answer.

Therefore, the common difference between each part of this sequence is - 1, since this is the first difference, the nth term will be - n.
Write out the sequence for - n.
Take the differences of the sequence of - n from the difference sequence obtained before which was 0, - 1, - 2, - 3, - 4.

This should leave you with the common difference of +1.

Which means the second part of your answer is -n+1.

The whole answer is therefore n^2-n+1


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Thanks! You're a lifesaver!

I've just managed to get my head round that answer!

:smile:
Reply 8
Thanks to everyone who posted for the help!
Original post by george1990_
Thanks for the reply, but what is f?


f is short for "function of:" and n is short for "number" in this case the number in the series which are 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5
Reply 10
Original post by Ishan_2000
The answer is

(stuff)

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Please don't post full solutions - it's against forum guidelines :smile:
Original post by davros
Please don't post full solutions - it's against forum guidelines :smile:


Oh right, didn't know that. :frown: Sorry.
Reply 12
Original post by Ishan_2000
Oh right, didn't know that. :frown: Sorry.


No problem - there's a sticky post near the top of the Maths forum with Guidelines for Posting if you want to have a quick scan through! :smile:
Original post by george1990_
Hey,

Answer is n squared + n + 1
what is the nth term in this sequence 2,9,18,29,42
i just had this question too
it directed me on TSR

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