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The Liverpool FC Thread XIV

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Yeah Rodgers is gone sadly, his press conference just felt like he was a dead man walking. I think you'll be held to a draw against Villa and that should be the final nail in the coffin.

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Yes please :biggrin:

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Mackay

Original post by Rk2k14

But the signs were already there.

Were they? I'm unsure.

It's very rare for a team to hit the ground running and look as formidable as City did.

We got by Stoke - a tough away day where we suffered scarring memories last year - with a screamer, and then were lucky to beat a plucky Bournemouth side but, again, we got the points and new players bedded in that little bit more.

For an hour against Arsenal, we were very good. Not excellent, admittedly, but very good. At this stage, United had only managed a couple of 1-0 victories, Arsenal had lost on the opening day, and Chelsea were already way behind City.

We were no worse than any of the top four bar City, who will surely go on and win the title.

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Mackay

I'll never want us to drop points in a bid for our manager to lose their job. Not even Hodgson. That's the most small club mentality thing I've ever heard.

Reply 383

Rk2k14

Original post by Mackay

I meant from the end of last season to the start the signs of decline were already there. The transfer window was a chance for Rodgers to redeem himself but i don't think that has been the case.

Just think its unusual for a club like Liverpool to sack their manager within 6/7 games of the new season. Expect if from Chelsea tho.

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Mackay

Original post by Rk2k14

I meant from the end of last season to the start the signs of decline were already there.

Oh, I agree. Absolutely.

Bear in mind, too, that if Rodgers is sacked he'll need compensation - along with his new backroom staff which the new manager will surely get rid of.

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Rk2k14

Original post by Mackay

Oh, I agree. Absolutely.

Bear in mind, too, that if Rodgers is sacked he'll need compensation - along with his new backroom staff which the new manager will surely get rid of.

The way you've been spending money i don't think compensation would have been a problem :biggrin:

Reply 386

The.Joker

I do like Rodgers I must say and I understand that he wants the team to play an attractive brand of football. (The 13/14 season was brilliant to watch for the most part.) But unfortunately LFC is just a step too far for him, we are a big club who have high ambitions. We want to be playing regularly in the CL against Europe's best and going toe-to-toe for the premier league. However, Rodgers just doesn't offer that to us (at least not yet in his managerial career). He seems incapable of having a solid plan B and being able to fix things when it goes tits up. We need someone who is experienced in challenging for the league and in Europe.

We've seen time and time again how Rodgers struggles to get the team over the line in Europe which just ends up negatively impacting our league form. I understand he's still very young (only 42) but that's no excuse for us to consistently come 5th/6th/7th. If Rodgers is sacked and FSG can bring in Ancelotti/Klopp then maybe we will finally get that consistency needed to finish in the top 4 and start reasserting our authority in Europe.

I sincerely hope we win tomorrow, I never like seeing the team perform poorly/lose.

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Lúcio

Original post by Mackay

I'll never want us to drop points in a bid for our manager to lose their job. Not even Hodgson. That's the most small club mentality thing I've ever heard.

Saying I "want" us to drop points is a little far, it's more like there would be a silver lining if we did.

Although I admit I did want us to lose in the League Cup when ET started, although it's not like I'll complain if we end up somehow winning the trophy...

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A Mysterious Lord

Original post by Lúcio

Although I admit I did want us to lose in the League Cup when ET started, although it's not like I'll complain if we end up somehow winning the trophy...

No word of a lie I've just spent the last five minutes trying to work out who ET is, then it clicked :frown:

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sr90

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Original post by WeOnlyLiveOnce

Villa haven't lost at Anfield in 5 years!

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Lúcio

Original post by sr90

Villa haven't lost at Anfield in 5 years!

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It's win-win to be honest or there about.
If we win the match, I'm happy because we won the match.
If we lose or draw, Rodgers is highly likely to get the sack.

It's a shame to get to that point where you want the manager gone so bad.
I can just see us doing something stupid like winning 5-0 now...

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sr90

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Original post by Lúcio

Even if winning means he's more likely to stay?

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Lúcio

Original post by sr90

Even if winning means he's more likely to stay?

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Well that's where it gets tricky.

Very rarely does a manager get sacked whilst winning matches so as you say, if he wins today he's more likely to stay.
In addition, as has been mentioned recently Rodgers is a momentum manager.

There's a chance that a win today could start off a run of amazing form from us.
Now while that sounds like a good thing, we all know it would be only short term.
So in the end we'd still have a bad season but we'd also still have a bad manager instead of writing this season off and getting Klopp.

So yeah, short term could be good but as long as Rodgers is at the club, Liverpool in the long term will underachieve.

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Zerforax

I don't think FSG are the types of owners who will sack after a few bad results. They will sack when they have worked out a proper replacement.

What's the point in sacking Rodgers now if Ancelotti and Klopp say they have no interest in managing LFC? We going to put O'Driscoll in charge?

Reply 394

Lúcio

Original post by Zerforax

Agree 100%. We won't sack Rodgers unless we have our replacement sorted.
I feel like Ancelotti is a bit of a pipe dream - he's too big to manage us in my opinion.

Scenes when we got Klopp and he leeches off Dortmund for signings.
Sakho/Hummels CB pairing :biggrin:

It could happen...

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TaintedLight

Br should be manage under 21 or something. He needs to learn how to treat players and identify talents.

Maybe after 5 years he can give the first team another shot