The Student Room Group

PGCE - Current Students Thread

Scroll to see replies

Original post by Bobble1987
I think you mean fileS! Get them sorted now while life is easy - i had a lever arch for each class with every lesson plan, resources and evals. 1 x file for data, seating plans. 1 for subject knowledge, 1 for professional studies, 1 for every thing else (assignments, extra curricular, reflective journal, annotated school policied, inset). 12 lever arches altogether, for school direct.


Haha.. I do indeed mean FILES.

I currently have 3 but was about to expand into 4.. One for uni days, one for PAT/reviews/obs etc., one for lesson plans and resources, one for standards.

BUT, I don't feel it is going to work very well the way it is currently set up...

Thank you all for your input. I will re-think and jiggle them around (again)
Original post by kpwxx
Assuming this is a folder for assessing you, a good way to do it if you have no guidelines is print off the full teaching standards and have a section for each one. As you move through the year add evidence that related to each bit to the relevant section. Then you can easily see that you've got evidence for them all, and which ones are lacking as you move through. Just don't panic as you won't have evidence for some of them until much later in the year.

Posted from TSR Mobile


If you haven't been given any guidance, this is definitely the best way to do it. Plus you can just chuck evidence on a pile on your desk until you have a free(er) moment.


Original post by TunaTunnel
Random question. Some of my uni choices would allow me to do physics with maths, others are just physics. Is it fine for my to have a personal statement that is entirely related to physics when applying potentially for physics with maths courses. I dont really have space in my personal statement to start mentioning mathematics.


Obviously it's preferable to have mentioned maths, but seeing as they're both shortage subjects out isn't crucial.

That said, you should really decide whether you want to teach physics or physics with maths. In both cases you'll train to teach all the sciences, and there's no escaping that. So you need to decide of you want to add another subject. To me, this makes things more interesting and asked for Garrett flexibility in future jobs. But you will miss out on some science training in order top talk about teaching maths, which is an obvious downside. Applying for both courses shows a lack of consideration and dedication, and not mentioning maths will indicate that.
Original post by magic_box
I've managed to catch a cold just from uni before even setting foot in school on Monday :frown:

My uni hasn't spoken much about teaching files/evidence for the standards so I've just set up my folder as above with sections for each standard and plastic pockets ready for evidence. Then a separate folder for class lists, seating plans, lesson plans, resources etc. Might go the one folder per class route when I find out how many classes I'm going to have.


My tutor hated plastic wallets so on the day before my hand in I had to take allll my evidence out and hole punch it
Is anyone free to talk to? I'm feeling overwhelmed.
I am also snowed under (already). Uni work is doable but second day into my first placement I am alreasdy shattered by the behaviour of my KS1 class - individually they are all ok but 30 of them together was just chaotic. The teacher kept being interrupted which slowed the pace down and then other children started to misbehave too. For this placement I'm predominately doing 1:1 and helping out in the class 3 days a week, so I wouldn't want to undermine the class teacher. There are a number of children displaying significant challenging behaviour which compound the issue. Children would listen to me and be quiet for a minute or two then they'd start again.

Any tips on how to manage without subverting the class teacher's authority? I do think majority of the kids do want to learn but with the disruption it's hard to see any real learning is taking place.
Original post by sunfowers01
Is anyone free to talk to? I'm feeling overwhelmed.


What's wrong? :hugs: Feel free to post on here or PM me. Use this thread as a rant base! That's what we all did.
Original post by sunfowers01
Is anyone free to talk to? I'm feeling overwhelmed.


Can I help?
Original post by sunfowers01
Is anyone free to talk to? I'm feeling overwhelmed.


Feel free to drop me a PM
Original post by Samus2
My tutor hated plastic wallets so on the day before my hand in I had to take allll my evidence out and hole punch it


My tutor did too, she said they reminded her of slimy things. I still had everything in them though lol.

Original post by sunfowers01
Is anyone free to talk to? I'm feeling overwhelmed.


Same as others, happy to listen if you want. Hugs!

Original post by hana&feather
I am also snowed under (already). Uni work is doable but second day into my first placement I am alreasdy shattered by the behaviour of my KS1 class - individually they are all ok but 30 of them together was just chaotic. The teacher kept being interrupted which slowed the pace down and then other children started to misbehave too. For this placement I'm predominately doing 1:1 and helping out in the class 3 days a week, so I wouldn't want to undermine the class teacher. There are a number of children displaying significant challenging behaviour which compound the issue. Children would listen to me and be quiet for a minute or two then they'd start again.

Any tips on how to manage without subverting the class teacher's authority? I do think majority of the kids do want to learn but with the disruption it's hard to see any real learning is taking place.


KS1 can be very like that. They very much bounce off each other and if you have lots of children showing challenging behaviour in the class it's even tougher. I had a KS1 placement in a school with lots of behaviour challenges and I completely empathise with the "while you get one quiet the others start!" thing. The thing is, they're still little so even if they want to learn and enjoy it and know the expectations, if they're bored waiting for another pupil to stop talking they will lose focus and join in, plus they'll feel like, what's the point in waiting when others don't?

I guess clear expectations are key. If you show them what you expect when they work with you that doesn't undermine the teacher. We all know that from remembering how we would know what different teachers expected when we were at school. It's not like they can say "Mrs X let's us talk!" because the teacher doesn't allow it, they just aren't stopping it all the time if that makes sense!

Remember it's still early in the year. Building positive relationships is so so so important, so I'd focus on that, and remember that the teacher will still be working on that. Once you have that you can interact with them better, and you will know them more, allowing you to figure out each child's needs and how to support them in making good choices.

Oh also that. Find out as much as possible about the schools behaviour policy then follow it. If possible I'd recommend using the language "Make a good choice" and praising good choices, and emphasising the positive child and all the good things about them. It really really works if you can do it consistently and also it's nice! Saves you stress, makes them feel positive about themselves.

A lot of challenging behaviour at that age is about either attention, self image or stress and worry at home, and the above works for all those. Make school somewhere safe and happy for all your pupils. Also, always look to the root... What is the behaviour for - it's aim right now - and then what us the deeper cause or reason for this. It's much easier to tackle with that knowledge.

Don't panic, keep calm. If it all goes horribly wrong (and it will) there's always next lesson. They are forgiving and learn quickly, treat it as a clean slate and they will too. Praise them. Keep their learning active and interesting. Use your voice well, if you need to attract attention during a time when they are talking LOWER your tone, don't go higher!

Most of all, don't let anything get to you, and give yourself a break. It's hard but it will get better and better and better! Talk it through, go over strategies in your head or out loud if it helps. And look after yourself.

Hope some of this helps! Good luck.

Posted from TSR Mobile
Original post by sunfowers01
Is anyone free to talk to? I'm feeling overwhelmed.


As with everyone else, if you want a chat I'm available. (Or just post on here with quotes and we'll all see it)
Poly pockets can be a pest as you have to take everything out to read the contents. Also if you need to make notes and changes on them it is annoying too! For that reason I don't use them in my class either.


Posted from TSR Mobile
Reply 7391
Original post by sunfowers01
Is anyone free to talk to? I'm feeling overwhelmed.


I alternate between loving the teaching and being overwhelmed by the workload and uncertainty of what is required for improvement. I rather think that at this stage, feeling overwhelmed for some, if not most of the time is common to us all........it certainly is amongst the SD trainees in my school!

I'm having a good night tonight after a good observation today.......but from my experience over the past few weeks I'm sure the next cliff to climb will be coming into view tomorrow! .
Original post by Grant2007
Poly pockets can be a pest as you have to take everything out to read the contents. Also if you need to make notes and changes on them it is annoying too! For that reason I don't use them in my class either.


Posted from TSR Mobile


For study and especially for portfolios, I usually have everything visible through the wallets anyway :smile:. I didn't for planning though, but still found them easier as they grouped each weeks planning and I could just grab it out and spread out, rather than having to go through loads of loose pages or buy hundreds of dividers.


Posted from TSR Mobile
Original post by Airfairy
What's wrong? :hugs: Feel free to post on here or PM me. Use this thread as a rant base! That's what we all did.


Original post by Carnationlilyrose
Can I help?


Original post by Samus2
Feel free to drop me a PM


Original post by kpwxx
My tutor did too, she said they reminded her of slimy things. I still had everything in them though lol.



Same as others, happy to listen if you want. Hugs!



KS1 can be very like that. They very much bounce off each other and if you have lots of children showing challenging behaviour in the class it's even tougher. I had a KS1 placement in a school with lots of behaviour challenges and I completely empathise with the "while you get one quiet the others start!" thing. The thing is, they're still little so even if they want to learn and enjoy it and know the expectations, if they're bored waiting for another pupil to stop talking they will lose focus and join in, plus they'll feel like, what's the point in waiting when others don't?

I guess clear expectations are key. If you show them what you expect when they work with you that doesn't undermine the teacher. We all know that from remembering how we would know what different teachers expected when we were at school. It's not like they can say "Mrs X let's us talk!" because the teacher doesn't allow it, they just aren't stopping it all the time if that makes sense!

Remember it's still early in the year. Building positive relationships is so so so important, so I'd focus on that, and remember that the teacher will still be working on that. Once you have that you can interact with them better, and you will know them more, allowing you to figure out each child's needs and how to support them in making good choices.

Oh also that. Find out as much as possible about the schools behaviour policy then follow it. If possible I'd recommend using the language "Make a good choice" and praising good choices, and emphasising the positive child and all the good things about them. It really really works if you can do it consistently and also it's nice! Saves you stress, makes them feel positive about themselves.

A lot of challenging behaviour at that age is about either attention, self image or stress and worry at home, and the above works for all those. Make school somewhere safe and happy for all your pupils. Also, always look to the root... What is the behaviour for - it's aim right now - and then what us the deeper cause or reason for this. It's much easier to tackle with that knowledge.

Don't panic, keep calm. If it all goes horribly wrong (and it will) there's always next lesson. They are forgiving and learn quickly, treat it as a clean slate and they will too. Praise them. Keep their learning active and interesting. Use your voice well, if you need to attract attention during a time when they are talking LOWER your tone, don't go higher!

Most of all, don't let anything get to you, and give yourself a break. It's hard but it will get better and better and better! Talk it through, go over strategies in your head or out loud if it helps. And look after yourself.

Hope some of this helps! Good luck.

Posted from TSR Mobile


Original post by tory88
As with everyone else, if you want a chat I'm available. (Or just post on here with quotes and we'll all see it)


Original post by neilcn
I alternate between loving the teaching and being overwhelmed by the workload and uncertainty of what is required for improvement. I rather think that at this stage, feeling overwhelmed for some, if not most of the time is common to us all........it certainly is amongst the SD trainees in my school!

I'm having a good night tonight after a good observation today.......but from my experience over the past few weeks I'm sure the next cliff to climb will be coming into view tomorrow! .


Thanks everyone. I think the main thing is the timetable. Kpsxx knows that I'm in a slightly different position because I teach TEFL. I feel like people are running rings around me and they get annoyed if I can't give them the time slot they want. Most of them have kids too which complicates matters. I don't want to be working all hours.

Posted from TSR Mobile
Original post by sunfowers01
Thanks everyone. I think the main thing is the timetable. Kpsxx knows that I'm in a slightly different position because I teach TEFL. I feel like people are running rings around me and they get annoyed if I can't give them the time slot they want. Most of them have kids too which complicates matters. I don't want to be working all hours.

Posted from TSR Mobile


How do they organise the lessons - do they book in person with you?

Posted from TSR Mobile
Original post by kpwxx
How do they organise the lessons - do they book in person with you?

Posted from TSR Mobile

No they go through an academy. I do have my own private students too who do book in person with me. I try to keep to the same day and time every week.


Posted from TSR Mobile
Original post by sunfowers01
No they go through an academy. I do have my own private students too who do book in person with me. I try to keep to the same day and time every week.


Posted from TSR Mobile


Then I would say it's on the academy to deal with this (after all, isn't that supposed to be one of the benefits of working through them? They take care of the bookings and that side of the admin?). If students are trying to give you issues just keep cool and apologise, say that all bookings are handled through the academy and if there are any issues it's them they need to consult.
Thanks so much - this has defo helped to clear everything up for me. I've spent the past week putting everything together & organising my files based on what you said


Original post by Samus2
lesson plans, lessons obs, your own obs of other staff, seating plans, worksheets, photocopies of student work to show your marking


Original post by kpwxx
Assuming this is a folder for assessing you, a good way to do it if you have no guidelines is print off the full teaching standards and have a section for each one. As you move through the year add evidence that related to each bit to the relevant section. Then you can easily see that you've got evidence for them all, and which ones are lacking as you move through. Just don't panic as you won't have evidence for some of them until much later in the year.

Posted from TSR Mobile


Original post by hana&feather
We spent 3 hours talking about the prof standards and we got a chance to look at some graduates' files. While we are in Primary it's possibly similar for secondary. We were told to get 9 sections for each of the standards and subdivide into each sub-section - a plastic pocket for each sub-section, and start collecting evidence as we go along (there'll be a selecting process towards the end to choose the best evidence. We'll write for each sub-section how the evidence show that we meet the standards). Echoing others, evidence can be lesson plans, observation notes, children's work, classroom display, code of conduct, uni's comment on professionalism, etc. We're expected to have something for 8 sub-standards by the end of our first placement (working with one child and groups), then getting 50% by Feb half-term. Some standards say 'consistent' and the evidence for that should be collected over a period of time, etc.

On top of it my uni wants a teaching file with school + class details, personal learning journal, all lesson plans + resources, assessments, medium and LT plans, observation notes etc. for each placement. That is of course in addition to our subject portfolios.

That was a daunting afternoon: one person hasn't returned since it seems. So I'm a bit surprised that your provider hasn't talked about it in depth yet. We do have a book on our list by Achieving QTS series, which explains the standards very well and has some case examples - but I haven't got the time to read it properly!

Those trolleys are excellent, unlessunpopular like me you use the London Underground - proved to be very unpopular and hazardous with my steering skill.
HELP PLEASE!

I am a mixed race trainee teacher and while I am aware that nationally BME teachers are low in numbers I have never felt it was a problem for me.
During a lesson a Y9 pupil asked me where I am from...innocent enough. I responded with my by telling him my hometown and he kept hammering the question - where am i from? I told him that we could talk about that at break but now we'll do the work. From my previous experience this question either leads to two directs: an interest of my family heritage or potential racism.
The next day the same student asked the same questions again except this time he went further and called me a negro. I promptly told him that it was unacceptable language to use and that was the end of that.

The problem is...I found the word deeply offensive and it did upset me, and it made me feel uncomfortable. I know its not PC but I didn't feel i could tell the class teacher because I wasn't sure if she would understand how i feel.

The question is - do you think the word negro is offensive. should i tell the teacher if it happens again? am i making a fuss out of nothing?Do i have a valid point or not. (if you disagree with me - please only civilized responses, no hating!)
Original post by shanzy_91
HELP PLEASE!

I am a mixed race trainee teacher and while I am aware that nationally BME teachers are low in numbers I have never felt it was a problem for me.
During a lesson a Y9 pupil asked me where I am from...innocent enough. I responded with my by telling him my hometown and he kept hammering the question - where am i from? I told him that we could talk about that at break but now we'll do the work. From my previous experience this question either leads to two directs: an interest of my family heritage or potential racism.
The next day the same student asked the same questions again except this time he went further and called me a negro. I promptly told him that it was unacceptable language to use and that was the end of that.

The problem is...I found the word deeply offensive and it did upset me, and it made me feel uncomfortable. I know its not PC but I didn't feel i could tell the class teacher because I wasn't sure if she would understand how i feel.

The question is - do you think the word negro is offensive. should i tell the teacher if it happens again? am i making a fuss out of nothing?Do i have a valid point or not. (if you disagree with me - please only civilized responses, no hating!)


You certainly shouldn't feel bad for feeling upset about the use of this word. As a trainee or teacher you have a right to work without feeling harassed or uncomfortable due to things like this.

Of course, working as a teacher you will have times when you experience things like this, especially for secondary pupils who are very much figuring out what's ok and what's not, including exploring language. So being able to keep calm and try and detach yourself personally is a good skill which you can work on throughout your career. However, that doesn't mean its OK for the pupil to do it, or that it should be ignored. I would certainly tell the class teacher - there may be a specific policy or way of recording the incident that you need to know about. She is a professional, and should deal with the matter in a professional way. It sounds like you handled it really well at the time, so give yourself a big pat on the back for that.


The pupil probably knows full well the potential connotations of the use of the word, although there is a chance they don't and have just heard it through family or friends who never mentioned its potential to offend. For an example, I had heard a potentially offensive term for a mixed race person used by a friend, but not often, as a teenager - I come from an area with a very high percentage of white Caucasian citizens. I had no idea that the term was considered offensive for around a year after I first heard it! So it can happen.

The most important thing is consistency... If the pupil says something with an intent to offend or upset a teacher, the response should be the same.

Posted from TSR Mobile
(edited 8 years ago)

Quick Reply

Latest

Trending

Trending