Should people be allowed to wear full face veils in hospitals?

So then by this logic, surgeons should be banned from wearing masks in all situations other than those in which they're necessary for hygiene purposes. But they're not.

what if the person doesnt want to be seen by a person with veil for whatever reason?

No they shouldn't. It's intimidating. Don't come here with your religion when we can't do the same with ours.


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Wouldn't it kinda be more hygienic though. Covering the mouth and all lol...

Not at all because it's impractical and they may be moving from one ward to another.

I agree with @elliemayxo, covering the face with a veil in nearly all public environments is a barrier to social interaction, and a security risk in the same way the wearing of a balaclava is. I believe a banning of face coverings has nothing to do with tolerance, respect for other religions, or being a xenophobe, it is about wanting to create a secure society. There are no grounds for denying full-face coverings are not a security risk when terror suspects have escaped wearing a burqa, committed robbery wearing a burqa as a disguise, and the balaclava is widely associated with criminal activity. Her final comment holds true, when in a country of people that do not regularly cover their full faces in public, doing so is a barrier that prevents full integration with that society; fitting in with the majority by adopting the same dress culture is a way of promoting social cohesion.

Well then surgeon's masks could cause exactly the same issues in terms of security risks, inability to identify them on CCTV, prevention of patient rapport etc.

Even if you ban a female, Muslim doctor from wearing a veil, there's nothing to stop her from wearing a surgeon's mask at all times instead. So in terms of the security and rapport issues you mention, it doesn't achieve anything. You would have to implement some sort of restriction on surgeon's masks as well.

If not, then surgeons shouldn't be allowed to wear a mask over their face.

Exactly!! surgeons cover their mouth during operations,so what is the issue?

Exactly. If I went over there and showed any of my skin then God knows what would happen to me


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Where is this 'there' you keep speaking of?


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The surgeon would not be a security risk because of the use of electronic card systems to enter into restricted areas of the hospital. It's easy to track their movements; not so for someone who is a member of the public.

Aw cutie x

Simple solution - give members of the public a visitor's pass upon identification, which works in the same way as staff members' electronic cards, authorising them for access to the ward they need to visit.



But if a surgeon is directly interacting with a patient, speaking to them and explaining things to them etc. then at that time, they should be banned from wearing their mask, to ensure that the best rapport is built right?

There is a significant difference between a consultation - where nuances of communication (including facial expressions) convey much of the meaning and where it is important to have lack of fear and apprehension, and an atmosphere of trust, integrity and openness - and an operation, where there is no communication going on between the operating team and the patient, and where hygiene for open body parts is of the utmost importance.

Surely even a rabidly superstitious person can see that?

No they shouldn't. It's intimidating. Don't come here with your religion when we can't do the same with ours.


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A solution to a non problem! Just what we needed.

No right minded surgeon would wear a mask when they're talking to a patient. You have an urge to provide non solutions, and ban things when it's simply not needed.

Simple solution - give members of the public a visitor's pass upon identification, which works in the same way as staff members' electronic cards, authorising them for access to the ward they need to visit.

Well if you're leaving it to the surgeon's discretion as to when they can wear a mask, why not also leave it to their discretion as to when they wear a veil?