Feminists don't hate men, but it doesn't matter if they did

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/13/feminists-do-not-hate-men

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I don't like how she is making out that white men have amazing lives even though most suicides are done by white men in this country. How does that work?

I don't like how she is making out that white men have amazing lives even though most suicides are done by white men in this country. How does that work?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/13/feminists-do-not-hate-men

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I do feel feminist gets too much criticism on tsr but that article is just ridiculous

Don't read opinion pieces in the Guardian.

It is three minutes of your life you'll never get back.

I do feel feminist gets too much criticism on tsr but that article is just ridiculous

I know that now, but the title was so outrageous I couldn't resist....

This is, after all, from a writer who once called for the end of catcalling, only for a year later to complain that she no longer gets catcalled:

This is, after all, from a writer who once called for the end of catcalling, only for a year later to complain that she no longer gets catcalled

And so you created a thread with a clickbait title which was so outrageous we couldn't resist either...

in the first article she is calling for the culture of catcalling to end because it's intimidating for women.

In the second article she talked about how she no longer got catcalled because she was older and 'not attractive to men' anymore, not because the culture of catcalling had stopped.

Therefore the articles are not contradictory.

I understand what she's saying, that having a tshirt saying 'male tears' is nowhere near women being raped and killed for being women, which is true, but I don't really think it's advancing the feminist cause in any way, if anything it just perpetuates the idea that gender-based insults are okay. And when you say 'it's only a bit of fun' in reference to a male tears tshirt, it kind of makes it okay for men to continue to use the excuse 'it's only a bit of fun' when they make sexist or rape jokes. Plus it's not doing a lot to eradicate the stereotype that feminists hate men - she is here in this article, but if someone was walking down a street with a male tears tshirt, how could you know if it was just a joke or they actually meant it? (After all, some women - a very small number - genuinely do hate men).

Plus men also face sexism in situations, such as when they enter professions such as nursing, or try to get custodial care of their children. So I just don't think it's helpful for anyone.

Surely it would be more helpful to stop the "male tears jokes" rather than defending it? Rape jokes are just as unacceptable as man-hating jokes. All sexist jokes are unacceptable just like all racist jokes are unacceptable.

in the first article she is calling for the culture of catcalling to end because it's intimidating for women.

In the second article she talked about how she no longer got catcalled because she was older and 'not attractive to men' anymore, not because the culture of catcalling had stopped.

Therefore the articles are not contradictory.