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Integration help needed C2

My question;

For the curve and straight lines, find their points of intersection, draw a sketch on the same axes and find the area of segment cut off from each curve by the corresponding straight line.

a) y=(x+1(x-2), x-y+1=0

sOLUTION
points of coordinates (-1,0) (3,4)

Area required = Area of trianagle - 32x2x2 \int_{3}^{2} x^{2}-x-2
= (12×4×4)32x2x2 (\frac{1}{2}\times 4 \times4 )- \int_{3}^{2} x^{2}-x-2
= 832x2x2 8 - \int_{3}^{2} x^{2}-x-2
break into two
23x2x2=[x33x222x]23 \int_{2}^{3} x^{2}-x-2 = [\frac{x^{3}}{3}-\frac{x^{2}}{2}-2x]_{2}^{3}

=(3333222(3))(2332222(2)) =(\frac{3^{3}}{3}-\frac{3^{2}}{2}-2(3))-(\frac{2^{3}}{3}-\frac{2^{2}}{2}-2(2))
=32(103)=116 = -\frac{3}{2} - (-\frac{10}{3}) = \frac{11}{6}

bring it together
area required =
8116=376 8-\frac{11}{6} = \frac{37}{6}

please help me and point out what i did wrong
the book says the answer is 323 \frac{32}{3}
please help me understand where i went wrong
i have attached my sketch q2.png
Reply 1
Original post by bigmansouf
My question;

For the curve and straight lines, find their points of intersection, draw a sketch on the same axes and find the area of segment cut off from each curve by the corresponding straight line.

a) y=(x+1(x-2), x-y+1=0


sOLUTION
points of coordinates (-1,0) (3,4)

Area required = Area of trianagle - 32x2x2 \int_{3}^{2} x^{2}-x-2
= (12×4×4)32x2x2 (\frac{1}{2}\times 4 \times4 )- \int_{3}^{2} x^{2}-x-2
= 832x2x2 8 - \int_{3}^{2} x^{2}-x-2
break into two
23x2x2=[x33x222x]23 \int_{2}^{3} x^{2}-x-2 = [\frac{x^{3}}{3}-\frac{x^{2}}{2}-2x]_{2}^{3}

=(3333222(3))(2332222(2)) =(\frac{3^{3}}{3}-\frac{3^{2}}{2}-2(3))-(\frac{2^{3}}{3}-\frac{2^{2}}{2}-2(2))
=32(103)=116 = -\frac{3}{2} - (-\frac{10}{3}) = \frac{11}{6}

bring it together
area required =
8116=376 8-\frac{11}{6} = \frac{37}{6}

please help me and point out what i did wrong
the book says the answer is 323 \frac{32}{3}
please help me understand where i went wrong
i have attached my sketch q2.png

I also got 32/3 by integrating x+1 -(x+1)(x-2) between -1 and 3
Reply 2
Original post by bigmansouf
My question;

For the curve and straight lines, find their points of intersection, draw a sketch on the same axes and find the area of segment cut off from each curve by the corresponding straight line.

a) y=(x+1(x-2), x-y+1=0


sOLUTION
points of coordinates (-1,0) (3,4)

Area required = Area of trianagle - 32x2x2 \int_{3}^{2} x^{2}-x-2
= (12×4×4)32x2x2 (\frac{1}{2}\times 4 \times4 )- \int_{3}^{2} x^{2}-x-2
= 832x2x2 8 - \int_{3}^{2} x^{2}-x-2
break into two
23x2x2=[x33x222x]23 \int_{2}^{3} x^{2}-x-2 = [\frac{x^{3}}{3}-\frac{x^{2}}{2}-2x]_{2}^{3}

=(3333222(3))(2332222(2)) =(\frac{3^{3}}{3}-\frac{3^{2}}{2}-2(3))-(\frac{2^{3}}{3}-\frac{2^{2}}{2}-2(2))
=32(103)=116 = -\frac{3}{2} - (-\frac{10}{3}) = \frac{11}{6}

bring it together
area required =
8116=376 8-\frac{11}{6} = \frac{37}{6}

please help me and point out what i did wrong
the book says the answer is 323 \frac{32}{3}
please help me understand where i went wrong
i have attached my sketch q2.png

what area are you finding?
Reply 3
Original post by TeeEm
what area are you finding?


i assume that the area i am asked to find is the one coloured in the picq3.png

thanks for the help
Reply 4
Original post by bigmansouf
i assume that the area i am asked to find is the one coloured in the picq3.png

thanks for the help


I think it is that plus the bit under the x axis, bounded by the curve.
Reply 5
Original post by TeeEm
I think it is that plus the bit under the x axis, bounded by the curve.


in that sense would you say that my method was wrong
Reply 6
Original post by TeeEm
I also got 32/3 by integrating x+1 -(x+1)(x-2) between -1 and 3


thanks found this answer it seems that i was wrong
i was not looking for the right area

i think if it was suppose to be the area that i thought it would have said the curve, straight line and x-axis

thank i understand where i was going wrong
(edited 8 years ago)
Reply 7
Original post by bigmansouf
in that sense would you say that my method was wrong


no
you just need to add the bit under

integrate the curve between -1 and 2
turn the answer positive and add it to 37/6 and see what you get
(I did it differently)
Reply 8
Original post by TeeEm
no
you just need to add the bit under

integrate the curve between -1 and 2
turn the answer positive and add it to 37/6 and see what you get
(I did it differently)


your way would be the best and simplest method but i decide to apply the alternative of using areas of shapes and then subtracting it i thought it would be easier
in most cases it is but not in this one
Reply 9
Original post by bigmansouf
your way would be the best and simplest method but i decide to apply the alternative of using areas of shapes and then subtracting it i thought it would be easier
in most cases it is but not in this one


I am advising you to stick to your method

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