Is anyone else seeing more and more white anglo-saxon women in Burkas?

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Do you realize how ignorant you are being? Most people in my school aren't native to the British Isles yet their first language is English. In fact, many of them don't even speak the language that their (grand)parents speak, or at least not very fluently. There aren't that many cases where schools have to draw in foreign language experts, they just get some teachers who teach literacy to start off with then the students just carry on with learning the new language by interacting with other students that they are surrounded by.

I don't know much about the faith schools but I'm sure that most of them don't teach extremist values and if they do, they are most likely someone who has already joined some radical extremist groups and therefore not teaching the true values of their religion.

That's your school, one person. There plenty of examples of what I referred to. And you are a muslim who likes multiculturalism, fair dos, but there are many not like you, who really seek islamic supremacy in this country. And for a start, teaching extremism is clearly a massive problem, regardless of whether it is the true values of the religion or not. The second point I'd like to make is that we are always told that these things don't represent the 'real islam', but how can that be when islam advocates the taking of enemies virgins, sex with younger women than our age of consent, and jihad or holy war is a central concept?
Are the true values not the punishment by death of adulterers or homosexuals? The amputation of theives limbs?

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Reply 41

i<3milkshake

Original post by SaucissonSecCy

That's your school, one person. There plenty of examples of what I referred to. And you are a muslim who likes multiculturalism, fair dos, but there are many not like you, who really seek islamic supremacy in this country. And for a start, teaching extremism is clearly a massive problem, regardless of whether it is the true values of the religion or not. The second point I'd like to make is that we are always told that these things don't represent the 'real islam', but how can that be when islam advocates the taking of enemies virgins, sex with younger women than our age of consent, and jihad or holy war is a central concept?
Are the true vlaues not the punishment by death of adulterers or homosexuals? the amputation of theives limbs?

Multicultralism? Nothing multi-cultural about the ghettos forming.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10790441/Guide-to-school-Islamisation-by-ringleader-of-Trojan-Horse-plot.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/shock-poll-51-of-muslims-want-sharia-law-25-okay-with-violence-against-infidels/

Even the prisons in Europe are becoming less multi-cultural and dominated by one group;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11352268/What-is-going-wrong-in-Frances-prisons.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html

Let us look to Sweden, the area with the highest immigration, to see how multi-cultural or not it is;
http://swedenreport.org/2015/05/18/police-yes-there-are-no-go-zones-in-sweden/
http://swedenreport.org/2014/10/29/swedish-police-55-official-no-go-zones/

The problem is only getting worse;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11962037/Islamic-State-planning-mass-attack-on-Britain-warns-head-of-MI5.html

If you think the UK needs more immigrants now, or will in the future, why not choose from the many Christians/Jews/Buddhists/Hindus/Sikhs/Agnostics/Atheists etc etc who have shown that they CAN be part of a multi-cultural Britain? Look at these groups and all the trouble they cause and combine them. Combine all these groups. All of the combined trouble is less than the one caused by Muslim immigration. The prison population typifies how such minority can cause a problem that is much larger than it should be. The no go areas are the same-how what is supposed to be a minority are raising absolute hell in a way that you would never see from other groups ten times their numbers.

Europe is a sinking ship. And we are letting more water in as we speak. Even more so thanks to Merkel.

Reply 42

Bubblewrap167

Original post by SaucissonSecCy

That's your school, one person. There plenty of examples of what I referred to. And you are a muslim who likes multiculturalism, fair dos, but there are many not like you, who really seek islamic supremacy in this country. And for a start, teaching extremism is clearly a massive problem, regardless of whether it is the true values of the religion or not. The second point I'd like to make is that we are always told that these things don't represent the 'real islam', but how can that be when islam advocates the taking of enemies virgins, sex with younger women than our age of consent, and jihad or holy war is a central concept?
Are the true vlaues not the punishment by death of adulterers or homosexuals? the amputation of theives limbs?

I understand why you think that these are the 'real values' because media tends to portray the negative aspects of just about everything. Also, Islam does not advocate taking of enemies virgins or sex with underage women. Islam also does not tell you amputate the limbs of thieves.

Also, people took advantage of the whole 'holy war' thing. You only have a holy war when the religion is genuinely under threat, and that is not the situation at the moment and neither is it in the near foreseeable future. So to answer your question, what you're being told that these aren't the values is true, and therefore the true values are not punishable by death. Besides, you are not supposed to punish anyone by death since blood will be on your hands. Only God can decide what happens to a person when he/she dies.

Reply 43

DiddyDec01

Original post by moonkatt

I live in Brum and I've never seen anyone wearing a burka.

We can't possibly be in the same Birmingham.

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Reply 44

SaucissonSecCy

Original post by i<3milkshake

I'm not pro-multiculturalism, just pro racial diversity- which could work in a common cultural identity- I think you have me wrong. I'm under no illusions about modern islam.

Reply 45

i<3milkshake

Original post by SaucissonSecCy

I'm not pro-multiculturalism, just pro racial diversity- which could work in a common cultural identity- I think you have me wrong. I'm under no illusions about modern islam.

I'm agreeing with you.
My view is that multi-racial is fine; multi-cultural is not.

Reply 46

username986184

Original post by i<3milkshake

Part of me says you are being stupid. Then again, the display of the Union Jack, the national flag, even wearing poppies has been discouraged due to its offensiveness.

However, when these people burn poppies I find that very offensive yet for some reason my offense is irrelevant.

I fly the union flag outside my house on a flagpole that I bought (15 feet high). No shame here though it's true that within one week I had some BNP adverts through my letterbox. These went straight into the recycling.

Reply 47

demx9

Original post by Bupdeeboowah

Lets liberate them with feminism!!!111!!!

Labour -> Feminism -> Islam

Reply 48

iamthetruth

This makes no sense how would I know if they are Anglo-Saxon anyway?

Reply 49

F1 UBX

Original post by arcenciel21

I am eating tomatoes rn, am I a tomato?[/
Verily you probably look like one.

Reply 50

Good bloke

Original post by iamthetruth

This makes no sense how would I know if they are Anglo-Saxon anyway?

They would carry a battleaxe and a round shield, and speak in a very strange accent.

Reply 51

Saftvare Jarb

Seen quite a few recently around Bristol. I think not only are muslim men reaching out further but also western women are increasingly starting to tire of the culture of vanity and the commercialisation of appearance and just wanna stick two fingers up at it basically. Niqab is a great leveller and allows a woman to escape from the egocentric, valueless competitive western society, be part of a wider movement and walk the streets in total anonymity.

Reply 52

Mal Baadshah

Original post by SaucissonSecCy

As above. Disturbing innit?

wait what? How do you know they're English? They could be some kinda Turkish or whatever.

Reply 53

Ladymusiclover

They may White but not necessarily European.

Reply 54

muslimstanisyed

These women tend to be the best type of wives and mothers you will ever come across.
Good on them.

Reply 55

muslimstanisyed

Also they are setting a good examples for their girl children with the way they act and cover.
I give them credit because a lot of them are good

Reply 56

username1432214

Original post by Ladymusiclover

They may White but not necessarily European.

this, i've seen many arabs with pale skin and some with blonde hair top

Reply 57

malaikaxx

Original post by Phoebe Buffay

I have indeed noticed this where I live. And soon the pressure will be on all women to wear these things. One day, I do expect women to be told, by our benevolent government, that we must wear the headscarfs out of respect to muslims. Wait and see.

"these things" which you are disrespectfully referring to is a way to protect yourself from the lustful eye of a man and to save your outer beauty to the man whom you will spend the rest of your life with and to God who is the one you worship and last but not least your own family - no women is forced to wear the niqab by islam - culture is something else where a women of her own rights is forced to do something which she is unwilling to do and the one who forces her to do anything of such will be punished by Allah

Reply 58

Phoebe Buffay

Original post by malaikaxx

Bull****.

I don't assume every man guilty, and a woman should not have to cover up. Whenever I hear a muslim woman talk about the reason(s) why they wear a headscarf, they always assume a status of victimhood - well, we need something to stop those men don't we? As for saving your 'outer beauty'? You realise this is nonsense. It is meaningless.

As for this:

'no women is forced to wear the niqab by islam'

Well, for all I know, it may be true. I simply don't care. Whether or not it is, there are a lot of (mainly men) in the world, and increasingly in this country, that seem to believe that the beliefs they hold about women, and how they dress, should be applied universally. This is what I am against.

You are perfectly at liberty to wear what you like, for whatever nonsensical reasons, but leave me out of it.