Poor White Males under achieving at school

It has everything to do with it because if I was to suggest black people (as an example) rob people or like chicken more than white people do, based on my experience (the rational behind your opinion), I would be deemd a racist. So you have to expect that in this day and age where white people are branded racist at every opportunity possible, that you really shouldn't say those things even if you think them.

That's is ludicrous - are you saying I shouldn't voice my opinion just because I may not be white? In case you've forgotten I have a right to speech

I'm asking where you are from? So that I can unprovenly trash talk your people/faith/ethnicity like you did to white people. That's what I'm saying.

You shouldn't have even bothered replying to my post if you clearly didn't like it - I was giving my honest opinion not trash talking white males - some are genuinely nice and very clever so I have nothing personal against them.
Regarding my race it really has nothing to do with you

'in my experience some white males just don't give a **** about education so i'm not too surprise'

Why is that right to say anymore so than me belittling your people. Let's assume you are muslim - how would you feel if I said something like 'in my opinion some brown females/muslims smell like ****'

Or something like that. Why is it ok for you to be prejudice against white people but it's not ok for us to be likewise?


Why are you allowed to practice it?

You have taken my comment way too offensive - in my experience some white males really do not care about education - a fact you probably don't like it but I'm sorry you've got to hear the truth

Well I'm not surprised, they get bombarded with messages that they are extremely privileged when they simply aren't. This causes them to become increasingly resentful and angry.

The thing is that they are NOT of the same background at all. You can take a poor Asian lad but the chances are he has a huge amount of family structure in his life and both his working parents push him to excel.

Now take a poor white lad - chances are he comes from a completely dysfunctional family (often fatherless), lives on a sink estate, has nobody encouraging him educationally, and is surrounded by family members and local people that haven't worked in generations.

So, they may be from the same "poor" mould but their social backgrounds really couldn't be more different.

When I am really bored I sometimes watch Jeremy Kyle on youtube. It sure is easy to sneer at those "chavvy" white lads. But when you see the parents, and peers, and learn about the environment they are immersed in from infancy it's not hard to see why they are the way they are.

I actually learned about this in sociology, there have been loads of studies done into this and they come up with plenty of explanations. Also if it was the idea that white males have privilege that is influencing how well they do in school, it shouldn't hinder them but help them - i.e. cause self fulfilling prophecies.

A big reason is laddism, so basically white males and their friends valuing "being a lad" over education, as that's not seen as something that's cool to them, unlike, say, chasing girls. ALSO, a massive reason for poor white boys specifically is that they don't see education as being something that's beneficial to them - teaching them things like maths and english literature instead of valuable life skills, like manual labour related things. I'd recommend reading up on Paul Willis' "learning to labour" study.

Lower class people underachieve in general. Look at Pakistanis, Bangladeshi or Blacks. The only ethnic groups who are able to "move upwards" are several Asian ethnic groups (Arabs, Non-Muslim South Asians, East Asians).

Check your privilege.

Today I learnt that Arabs are now an Asian ethnic group, as are Muslims....

Asia starts between Greece and Turkey.

Then quite a lot of the world is "Asian" according to you....East Asians and South Asians differ quite a lot ethnically; never mind the Arabs...

Also answer my question above

How exactly is the Pakistani non Muslim part of an "Asian ethnic group" but the Pakistani Muslim isn't?

Blame the Greek who decided everything east of Greece should be called "Asia"...

Most Pakistanis remain lower class in the UK. I was under the impression that Indian Muslims might also be chavvy but I'm not sure, but I am sure than non-Muslim South Asians are stereotyped as being middle class or at least able to move upwards

And why is an Indian Muslim more likely to be "chavvy" than a non Muslim Indian?