Abortion right or wrong

Your wrong. You don't remember clearlu obviously, doubt you 'remember' at all lol.They were philosphers with scientific theories that were expanded on and developed later by scientists when science was identified as science. Natural law's is a scientific term, making it science. Stop trying to wriggle yourself out of the fact you are clearly wrong here.

Well at least it's nice to see someone arguing from a respectful point of view, instead of just shouting angry nonsense.

I agree that there are some women that get pregnant because of their own irresponsibility, however, there are also many cases of women that did use birth control methods but the failed. Aren't they entitled to have sex for whatever reason they want? Moreover, if they were responsible, why shouldn't they be able to abort?

Another question, are you also against the morning-after pill?
As you said, there are millions of unwanted children, and obvioiusly now that they are alive we don't think that way, but, as crude as it might sound, wouldn't it have been better if their parents had not had brought them to a miserable life, and waited for the correct time to have a child?

No, just NO. Go ask a child that has been sexually abused if they have 'recovered' Go ask a child with a drunken mother and father who beat them to death everynight, go ask if they have recorvered??? You are clearly SOO ignorant, like most pro-lifers.

A child should not ever have to go through anything so trumatic. It is a child, everychild deserves love and a happy home. Not everyone is able to provide it, in that case don't bring a child into the world and carry out an abortion if necessary.

Don't call me sweetheart, what objectifying language. Change your tone with me, you are clearly wrong. Era changes nothing, theories where discovered long before science identified itself. You are completely wrong here.

You are wrong here, though. For example the theory of biogenesis was only proven and quantified when Louis Pasteur did his famous experiments on abiotic genesis. Before that people just thought 'bad air' caused illness and that animals mysteriously formed of their own accord from rotting organic material

Your avatar is Ugh

Yes.

This thread ain't about homosexuality, if you wish to continue then you can simply VM me. Or not.

When were we talking about safety and existence of abortion. I made a whole other point that you don't seem to have caught on to.

They are, because a human is a being that can 'live' on it's own, as I said before it doesn't share a life with it's mother in her uterus.

Unless we are all walking uterus' now?

"Science also allowed abortions to come about"
"and I was talking about safe medical abortions clearly. "

The point you were making seemed to be some kind of conflict between science's position on what constitutes a human, and the invention of safe abortions. Can you explain it?

I think you are confusing human with person or a more philosophical concept.

I stick to them, they don't need changing to suit your views



Well there are reason too.
Control them ****ing urges then.


OP mentioned not wanting kids? They should have thought about that beforehand.

Um so in your head it's better for a child to go through truamatic sexual abuse/ violence than to never have lived at all?




I said science was around, did I say it was identified? and lol your comma is in the wrong place.

I stick to them, they don't need changing to suit your views



Well there are reason too.
Control them ****ing urges then.


OP mentioned not wanting kids? They should have thought about that beforehand.

How is my avatar "Ugh"? You have a problem with two homosexual males expressing love for eachother?

Um so in your head it's better for a child to go through truamatic sexual abuse/ violence than to never have lived at all?

To be honest, I'm pro choice and I think that too. I think it's pretty insulting and even possibly damaging to speak on behalf of abuse victims, especially if your implying that it's better to have not lived at all.