J.K. Rowling Uses Dumbledore to Explain Why She Opposes Israel Boycott

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I haven't really seen anything in your previous posts that would suggest you possess the kind of intellect that would make a discussion worthwhile.

The irony...

I will respond to your rant later, independently of your desire to not have your babble exposed, sorry about that.

As an aside, please show me where I claimed to be unbiased? You're very fond of your straw man arguments, aren't you? :smile:

Reply 41

SignFromDog

Original post by Illiberal Liberal

I'm confused as to the meaning of irony

As I edited my post, you missed the bit where I pointed out I also find your clunky prose style tiresome.

No need to respond (though if you insist on further embarrassing yourself you are certainly welcome). Your blathering really won't make for an interesting debate so we can leave it there.

Reply 42

Masih ad-Dajjal

I really don't understand why she is using a fictional character she made up to give her opinion.

It's like putting a puppet on your hand and doing a silly voice to answer questions, creepy a f tbh

Reply 43

SaucissonSecCy

She just doesn't want harm her profits, simple as that. Shallow hypocrite. I don't like this woman, and her books are crap.

Reply 44

Masih ad-Dajjal

Bet Malfoy would have been all up the assess of the Mullahs in Iran, that evilness coupled with the sense of superiority.

Reply 45

SignFromDog

Original post by SaucissonSecCy

She just doesn't want harm her profits, simple as that. Shallow hypocrite. I don't like this woman, and her books are crap.

Nonsense. Being a sensible, moderate supporter of Israel's right to exist is one of the most unpopular views around. You get slated by the far-left, the conspiracy theorists, the proto-fasicsts, the Islamofascists, the anti-semites and by the Israeli right for being unsufficiently "Rah rah, everything Israel does is great".

She has taken a principled position against the utterly moronic idea that left-wing filmmakers and academics who are amongst Netanyahu's strongest critics should be punished for a policy they oppose. Culturally boycotting Israel will punish the people who are the core of the group within Israel pushing for an end to the occupation, and it would mean we would have never seen amazing films like The Gatekeepers which are witheringly critical of the occupation

Reply 46

Bupdeeboowah

Original post by Masih ad-Dajjal

I really don't understand why she is using a fictional character she made up to give her opinion.

It's like putting a puppet on your hand and doing a silly voice to answer questions, creepy a f tbh

If you read Harry Potter as an adult you'll realise that she is really writing about a fantasized socialist society, and so it's far better to just treat her books as entertaining fiction, rather than a book of philosophy.

Reply 47

SignFromDog

Original post by Masih ad-Dajjal

I really don't understand why she is using a fictional character she made up to give her opinion.

It's like putting a puppet on your hand and doing a silly voice to answer questions, creepy a f tbh

Rowling recently co-signed a letter to the Guardian, along with about 200 other authors and cultural luminaries (Simon Schama and Maajid Nawaz among them) opposing a cultural boycott of Israel.

A Palestinian-descended Scottish teacher published a mad rant on her blog criticising Rowling for this. The teacher said that when she had read the Harry Potter books, she had always pictured the Death Eaters as Israelis (mad woman, clearly) and Muggles as Palestinians (I hope she wasn't teaching her students this hateful nonsense).

So Rowling responded to this misinterpretation of the Potter books, and to set her straight. And in particular, to draw attention to why the ethos of the Potter books would be opposed to cutting off any form of communication with a group of people such as Israeli artists and academics.

Reply 48

SaucissonSecCy

Original post by SignFromDog

She espoused another view initially...then saw what might happen to her cashflow, (it is as simple as that, so no need to over complicate it and tell me all that obscure stuff...)as though she isn't obscenely rich, in a country full of poor destitute people. She waded in pompously on Scottish independence after living here two minutes as well. I can't stand her.

Reply 49

SignFromDog

Original post by SaucissonSecCy

She espoused another view initially...then saw what might happen to her cashflow, (it is as simple as that, so no need to over complicate it and tell me all that obscure stuff...)

Do you have any evidence of this, as opposed to it being something that happened in your head? Afaik Rowling has always had a pretty moderate and fair view of the I/P conflict. It's entirely unclear how any of this would affect her finance-wise, especially given being mindlessly anti-Zionist is a fairly popular view in the demographic for which she primarily writes.

In any case, I look forward to you citing some evidence of this claim. Claims of some kind of Jewish control of the publishing industry (and thus that she would be "punished" for being anti-Zionist) isn't really evidence, mind you.

She waded in pompously on Scottish independence after living here two minutes as well. I can't stand her.

Ahh, so now we see where your pique comes from. I thought the SNP were not bigoted or racist, and that anybody who lives in Scotland should be allowed to have a say on the future of the country?

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Reply 50

Masih ad-Dajjal

Original post by SignFromDog

That does give some context.

It is a bit mental to read some dumb fantasy book and immediately relate it back to the Jews.

Reply 51

SignFromDog

Original post by Masih ad-Dajjal

That does give some context.

It is a bit mental to read some dumb fantasy book and immediately relate it back to the Jews.

Unfortunately many of these people are somewhat detached from reality, and the Israel - Palestine conflict provides (in their mind) a very simple "Four legs good, two legs bad" narrative on which they can endlessly, and mindlessly, bleat for the purposes of virtue signalling.

Reply 52

troubadour.

Original post by SaucissonSecCy

Rowling has lived in Scotland more or less consistently since 1993. Even if your hyperbole was true, I don't see why she shouldn't have waded into what was clearly a national issue.

Reply 53

TaintedLight

Original post by SignFromDog

If you don't even know what year Hamas was created then you are clearly not well informed enough to have an opinion on this deeply complicated and complex subject.

Like so many "anti-zionists", you don't actually know very much about the conflict but it doesn't stop you being highly opinionated about it.

Hahaa words spoken like a true noob. It's only complex if you don't know what you are trying to understand.

And I can understand it can be "complex" if you need to justify murders, arson attacks, sexual assaults, leaving kids in jail for 10+ years, and god forbid what else every other day.

Reply 54

anarchism101

Original post by SignFromDog

The analogy is also moronic because no matter how hard the fascists and their useful idiots on the far left try, they cannot even come close to showing that a country where Arab Israelis have the right to vote, are in parliament, are on the Supreme Court, are prominent in the media and who regularly say in opinion polls they prefer to continue living under Israeli rule (because they see how much a shambles the rest of the Middle East is) could be construed as anything like South Africa.

After the Botha reforms in the early 1980s, 'petty apartheid' had been abolished, and Asians and Coloureds in South Africa had the vote, MPs, cabinet minsters and were ~30% of the armed forces. But no-one says apartheid ended in 1983.

Comparing Israel to South Africa is an extremist position pushed by sinister fascists and useful idiots of low intelligence who lack the intellectual horsepower to see the analogy for the idiocy it is

Extremists like Ehud Barak?

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Reply 55

SignFromDog

Original post by anarchism101

After the Botha reforms in the early 1980s, 'petty apartheid' had been abolished, and Asians and Coloureds in South Africa had the vote

You seem to be confused. Coloured and black South Africans are not the same thing. Coloureds are their own ethnic group

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured

Black people in South Africa were only permitted to vote from the first all-race elections in South Africa in April 1994, which is considered the end of apartheid. So yes; black people in South Africa never had the vote until the end of apartheid; that was one of the defining features of apartheid. Arab Israeli citizens have always had voting rights, thus putting the lie to your confused analogy.

As I said before, anti-Zionists are often not particularly well-read on these subjects (as your confusion of coloureds and black south Africans shows), but it doesn't stop them being highly opinionated.

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Reply 56

SignFromDog

Original post by anarchism101

Leaving aside my discrediting of your analogy by demonstrating your ignorance of the difference between black South Africans and the Coloured ethnic group... in which Arab state do its citizens have rights comparable to those of the Arab Israelis?