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Violence against migrants in Germany spikes

The attacks:

- Two of the attacks, in Wismar and Magdeburg, were committed by groups of more than 20 persons who harassed and beat asylum seekers with baseball bats on Saturday.
- two Syrian men, who were not identified, were standing outside their shelter in Wismar on the Baltic Sea on Saturday night when a group of 20 persons approached them and started beating the refugees.
- 30 persons beat up two 26-year-olds and one 35-year-old Syrian man, who also had to be treated in the hospital

The people undertaking these attacks are the extremists. Hope they are locked up and the key thrown away!! Hope the media are held accountable too.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/violence-against-migrants-in-germany-spikes/

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Reply 1
This is terrible, people can be so cruel. :frown: The asylum seekers have already suffered enough; escaping war, travelling such dangerous journey thinking life will change for the better and they are treated like this. It makes me sick.
Original post by drowzee
This is terrible, people can be so cruel. :frown: The asylum seekers have already suffered enough; escaping war, travelling such dangerous journey thinking life will change for the better and they are treated like this. It makes me sick.


To be fair, loads haven't escaped anything. A very significant proportion are from places like Albania and Pakistan but got rid of their documents so they can claim to be Syrian.

Also the vast majority are young men and many of the centres they stay at get trashed and ruined in gang wars between Albanians, Afghans and Pakistanis. This is why patience in Germany - where people see this every day - is wearing thin.
Reply 3
Original post by drowzee
This is terrible, people can be so cruel. :frown: The asylum seekers have already suffered enough; escaping war, travelling such dangerous journey thinking life will change for the better and they are treated like this. It makes me sick.


The asylum seekers may have been through that... These illegal economic migrants have not.
Original post by drowzee
This is terrible, people can be so cruel. :frown: The asylum seekers have already suffered enough; escaping war, travelling such dangerous journey thinking life will change for the better and they are treated like this. It makes me sick.




How wonderful they want a better life.



You think we have to accept billions of Africans, Asians and Arabs into our country because they want a better life?

But what about the existing population why don't they matter?




You are blaming us, when this problem is the responsibility of Arabs


Syria is a largely Arab Muslim country


ISIS and other militant groups are comprised largely of Arab Muslims


So why do you feel European people have to suffer because of their actions?

And yes, we are the one's who suffer


We are made a minority in our ancestral homeland just because we're trying our best to be good nice people!

All the anti-White violence is ignored. A few months ago did you hear of those Swedish people killed in Ikea by African Aslyum seekers?



Immigration has done nothing but cause problems in Europe. I see only one possible positive of immigration and that is it adds to the work force.



Europeans should be encouraging big families, not replacing them with millions of other people who aren't genetically or culturally related to them...
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Original post by drowzee
This is terrible, people can be so cruel. :frown: The asylum seekers have already suffered enough; escaping war, travelling such dangerous journey thinking life will change for the better and they are treated like this. It makes me sick.


They are economic migrants.
http://thewealthwatchman.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Assad-2.jpg

Europe is being flooded by "refugees" and "asylum seekers". We are told it is "racist" to say that they are only trying to get into the UK for benefits. However, this is just a short few reasons why I believe that actually, they do just want benefits;

1) Even when they are in safe in other nations, including France, they still want entry into the UK. If they wanted safety and that was their reason for leaving their home country they would be happy in areas like Turkey?

2) Actually what the HELL are they doing in France? Look at Syria, Eritea, Libya, on a map; why don't these people just all go to Saudia Arabia, Dubai, Oman, South Africa, Ghana, Nigeria, Qatar, Kuwait, etc? See the map above.

These countries will have a culture and way of life much more like what they are used to. These countries are also CLOSER. So what on earth are they doing in the UK and Germany? They have most likely passed through safe countries, turned them down and are going for the countries with a reputation for giving out large amounts in benefits.

So that is why when people say "oh have compassion" and all that rubbish I say no thank you. Don't get me wrong here, I am perfectly happy for people to flee conflict. They absolutely SHOULD be allowed to stay in the nearest safe country.

However, unless there is a war in France, Germany or Denmark I really don't see how the UK should have to take these people in. After all, the above countries are the only ones that the UK is closest to.

I'm tired of the EU stance on the illegal migrant crisis.
Original post by KimKallstrom
To be fair, loads haven't escaped anything. A very significant proportion are from places like Albania and Pakistan but got rid of their documents so they can claim to be Syrian.

Also the vast majority are young men and many of the centres they stay at get trashed and ruined in gang wars between Albanians, Afghans and Pakistanis. This is why patience in Germany - where people see this every day - is wearing thin.


Could not agree more.

If Merkel and co want to keep forcing the population to take these people against their will the violence (in reference to the thread title) won't have spiked; it will be a relative low. When you take peoples' democratic rights to protest from them the only solution is violence. Look at the problems Europe already has with these people in prisons and their crime levels, extremism, lack of integration, favouring Shariah law, etc.

If they were moving near me, forced upon my community, I would be really angry-and that is a massive understatement.
Reply 7
Well when you force the common people into submission and fear of having an opinion, these are the ones who rise up
What I don't get is why some of the economic migrants go to the Arab countries like Dubai or UAE instead.
Original post by MrsSheldonCooper
What I don't get is why some of the economic migrants go to the Arab countries like Dubai or UAE instead.


Those countries use poorer people as slaves, while us, Sweden, Germany etc give them free money for nothing. But seriously, look up slavery in UAE, Dubai, Qatar and Saudi. It's why lots of people protested when Qatar got the World Cup. We see how they treat their "brothers".
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Reply 10
Original post by MrsSheldonCooper
What I don't get is why some of the economic migrants go to the Arab countries like Dubai or UAE instead.


Because they don't want them there.
smh
Original post by KimKallstrom
To be fair, loads haven't escaped anything. A very significant proportion are from places like Albania and Pakistan but got rid of their documents so they can claim to be Syrian.

Also the vast majority are young men and many of the centres they stay at get trashed and ruined in gang wars between Albanians, Afghans and Pakistanis. This is why patience in Germany - where people see this every day - is wearing thin.


Original post by Reue
The asylum seekers may have been through that... These illegal economic migrants have not.


Original post by ivy.98
Well when you force the common people into submission and fear of having an opinion, these are the ones who rise up


disgusting some of the replies on here, regardless of where or who they are. No one should be attacked like this. NO ONE. Get a grip people.
Reply 13
Original post by MrsSheldonCooper
What I don't get is why some of the economic migrants go to the Arab countries like Dubai or UAE instead.


They don't want them. Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc. fear that these refugees, who initially revolted against Assad, may bring 'dangerous ideas' with them.
Reply 14
Germans are being put under great pressure, and no-one asked them if they agreed to these suicidal immigration policies .. expect more violence and possibly the revival of a radical right movement.
Reply 15
Original post by Bill_Gates
disgusting some of the replies on here, regardless of where or who they are. No one should be attacked like this. NO ONE. Get a grip people.


I didn't suggest anyone should, don't try to misrepresent my reply to a different point raised by someone after the OP.
Original post by Bill_Gates
disgusting some of the replies on here, regardless of where or who they are. No one should be attacked like this. NO ONE. Get a grip people.


But you are perfectly happy to deny people democracy and force people to take in these people?

And when the host country sees rapists and criminals destroy their country you are ok with it? I mean I don't see you being particularly concerned about the rights of the host country.

This is an invasion; people coming in under the guise of "refugees" but once landing on the shores of the host raising hell.

1 in 4 Swedish women will be raped;
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-sexual-assaults-daniel-greenfield

Another worrying trend;
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

They literally turn a beautiful civilised country into ghettos of savages;
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/18/interview-retired-swedish-police-chief-says-malmo-crime-skyrocketing-due-uncontrolled-immigration-no-go-zones/
http://swedenreport.org/2015/05/18/police-yes-there-are-no-go-zones-in-sweden/

Just look at the number of extremist attacks in France. Look how badly they have integrated there. Even the prisons are ghettos of one type;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11352268/What-is-going-wrong-in-Frances-prisons.html

Germany has its own issues, other EU countries as well-I can provide evidence for them to if you like.


I find it literally disgusting that when people try and resist letting rapists and criminals into their countries people get upset. The economic migrants aren't even grateful-they hate the West. View us all as the lowest of the low;
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/trojan-horse-broken-fire-alarm-7479406

They think of any non-Muslim as filthy Kuffars.

Original post by ivy.98
Well when you force the common people into submission and fear of having an opinion, these are the ones who rise up


They are patriots. Standing up for democracy. Standing up for the quality of life for their citizens. Mass immigration of some group replaces the culture of the host nation ghetto by ghetto. It sees the host inhabitants be subjected to crimes, crimes of the worst kind like rape. But luckily enough for us we see some people still prepared to fight for their country despite their own politicians doing their best to destroy it.


The economic loss of mass immigration could be accepted. After all, it is just money. It isn't the most important thing. However, what mass immigration damages is not just that.
Look in the UK; do Buddhists cause any problems? Do Jews? Do Hindus? Do Sikhs? Do Christians? Do Atheists? Do Agnostics? By and large no. They all adapt the same culture, live the same way of live, under the same law. They don't call for (or follow and live by despite the of the host) their own special law like Shariah. One that sees the need for a women to have four male witnesses to report a rape or SHE ends up in jail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23381448
From the article;
According to the Emirates Centre for Human Rights, UAE law states a rape conviction can only be secured after a confession or as the result of testimony from four adult male witnesses to the crime.
If you read the Koran this is permitted. It says that a women must produce four witnesses.

The Qur'an:Qur'an (2:282) - Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam).
Qur'an (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them..." Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad's favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough). However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since if there are not four male witnesses, the rape "did not occur".
Qur'an (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah."
Qur'an (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.
From the Hadith: Bukhari (5:59:462) - The background for the Qur'anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad apparently did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.

When you look at what these politicans are trying to force upon us I don't blame people for rejecting this "cultural enrichment". I myself cannot criticse these attacks when you look at what they are fighting, and what they are fighting for. Let us be honest; if everyone was as spineless as me, sitting around moaning whilst democracy was denied, God knows where we would be.
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Original post by drowzee
This is terrible, people can be so cruel. :frown: The asylum seekers have already suffered enough; escaping war, travelling such dangerous journey thinking life will change for the better and they are treated like this. It makes me sick.


Here is a quote from an article about the 1920s mass migration into Germany:

"The pressure to treat the migrants fairly and with openness was intense. Organisations such as the Paris based Alliance Israelite Universelle, the New York HIAS (Hebrew Sheltering and Immigrant Aid Society) or the Berlin Hilfsverein der Deutschen Juden all helped to expedite the flow of migrants out of Russia. Sadly the racists got in on the act. Those who feared any diversity founded the Pan Europa Movement which agitated for a strange sort of eugenics in which it was held that peace could only be obtained by breeding out the diversity of racial differences in Europe and this was opposed by the National Socialists. The Pan Europeans built the fire and the Nazis lit it."

It is chilling that Pan Europa has been pivotal to the foundation of the EU and, as one of its first major policy decisions since it became sovereign in 2014, the EU Council repeats the 1920s. Will we have mass deportations in 2025 as the EU swings wildly to the right after a string of Muslim terrorist incidents?
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Original post by Justif
What about all the violence against EUROPEAN PEOPLE?

All the raping and murdering that the mainstream media rarely reports?

Just a way to make them look like the victim, while these invaders come and rape our women and kill our people

It is time European people take up arms and drive these savages out of our lands


Don't buy into this idea the people resisting are evil. When the politicians deny you the right to choose how you live you know something is wrong. The public are clearly against this-why do politicians get the right to treat us like slaves? We are not. The people should realise their true power; walk away from the corrupt political process, the one that calls itself democracy but is really so, so far from it.
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/the-people-dont-know-their-true-power.jpg

We are told those resisting are evil but remember, they have seen their power reduced. They have seen their way of protesting or giving the public what they want taken. if you take all the civil ways of protesting from people what is left? Only violence.

The only tools the tyrannical liar politicians have left is violence now. They have taken all the other tools from people. So do I want to see violence? No. Do I think it should happen? No. Do I encourage others to commit violence? No.

But I am not naive enough to think that when you deliberately try and force people to accept huge damage to not only their lives but their children and their childrens' children through sham democracy that they will not fight back. And they will fight back in the only way left to them.

They are patriots, they do care about the country. They will act to protect their country when the government can't or won't do so. If government thinks that it can force tyranny on people think again; the loyalty of these patriots is to their country, not to liar politicians who are hell bent on the destruction of their country, all for the progression of their careers in the PC parties and their own little bit of gold at the end.


Don't want violence? Don't force them to take in the violent.
Don't listen to the politically correct propaganda;
Original post by i<3milkshake

Don't want violence? Don't force them to take in the violent.
Don't listen to the politically correct propaganda;


Take a look at my post above. It is disturbing that in Europe they are used to shunting around populations to create a revolutionary sentiment. As inhabitants of an island the British have only been introduced to this way of doing politics in the last 50 years.

It is really impossible to tell whether the Pan Europeans are operating in good faith. I doubt it. Worse still, the European far right are probably enjoying the possibility that this new wave of migrants will create the explosion that they need to gain power and so are supporting it. The EU is a dark place that the British do not comprehend.
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