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Reply 60
Original post by iAre Teh Lejend
One does not simply provide proof or sources for a topic that is purely based on opinion.


But you stated "make supremacy..." Can you give an example of this?
Original post by harinimnida
LOL. No I don't, however the forefront of feminism at the moment is being represented this way. When I was in college there were societies of feminists who wouldn't allow men in because they couldn't be feminists themselves only 'allies'.

Western feminism isn't needed.


Western feminism isn't needed? What? You mean the same western feminism that campaigns for women all around the world in some places where women are still being seen as second class citizens?

It's not western feminism, it's just feminism; feminists in Latin America were being killed simply for speaking out and feminists in more developed countries have been helping those types of people. You seem naive to the world around you.
Original post by harinimnida
I'm not a feminist but I believe in equal rights for both sexes.
Careful now, you don't want to be lynched for not identifying as a feminist or rejecting the terminology they want you to use.
Original post by ubisoft
But you stated "make supremacy..." Can you give an example of this?


Male supremacy doesn't exist as widespread in todays society. What I meant by male supremacy is the undermining of females by males, viewing them as a lesser.
Original post by TheonlyMrsHolmes
:h: You explain better than I do! Very good! :biggrin:


Thank you, we still need to keep the same love thread alive btw. xD
Original post by harinimnida
Currently people like Anita Sarkeesian and that other crazy woman (Purple hair also spoke at the conference?) are speaking in the UN on behalf of the third wave feminist movement, so unfortunately, radical feminism in the west at the moment is acceptable to criticise.

Here's a lovely YouTuber that points flaws in real feminist logic!


Well we are talking about mainstream feminism and tbh most of us normal folk are. I don't agree with radical feminism and I am a feminist. You can't blame all of feminism now, can you?
Original post by Danz123
Thank you, we still need to keep the same love thread alive btw. xD


Yes, thanks for the reminder lol!
Reply 67
Original post by harinimnida
I'm not a feminist but I believe in equal rights for both sexes.


Equal rights for both sexes is, in the purest sense, feminism.
Original post by TheonlyMrsHolmes
Yes, thanks for the reminder lol!


lol I just feel like we need to because of the many threads against it. :/
Original post by Illiberal Liberal
I agree with you OP.


They are not mutually exclusive concepts.

And egalitarianism is too nebulous and vague a concept - feminism is a more effective and accurate label for supporting the equality of the sexes (against the backdrop of this not yet being manifested in society).


This has to be stressed. As a feminist, I can see the confines of gender roles quite blatantly even in this thread. Yes women may generally be natural care givers, but that does not mean that ALL women are natural caregivers, some men may be more suited to it than some women. In the same way, men may generally be more suited to physical work, but there are some women more suited to physical work than some men. The idea of feminism is not equality because there's no difference between men and women, it's the idea that we should not let our differences, biological and mental, stand in the way of equality.
Reply 70
Original post by iAre Teh Lejend
Male supremacy doesn't exist as widespread in todays society. What I meant by male supremacy is the undermining of females by males, viewing them as a lesser.


So you are calling for males to change their personal views? Are you suggesting that females are so weak that they cannot dismiss what other people view them as? You are a sexist.
Original post by TheonlyMrsHolmes
Well we are talking about mainstream feminism and tbh most of us normal folk are. I don't agree with radical feminism and I am a feminist. You can't blame all of feminism now, can you?


It's like blaming Stalinism on Socialism
Original post by iAre Teh Lejend
I don't understand.


Bro I think even suggesting that male supremacy should end makes u radical feminist
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
Meanwhile in the most feminist of countries in Viking land I would get a hell of a lot more guaranteed paternity leave.

Even if we must distinguish gender egalitarianism and feminism there is still a lot of overlap and feminism should not be the enemy of egalitarianism....


Right. It's just semantics at this point in order to re-brand the toxicity. All the feminists of today are simply taking their ideology to its logical conclusion, and people have rejected it by and large. They consider their families to be more important than women being in the workforce or risking their lives on a battlefield.

The true enemy of feminism, of course, is men. Male feminists and male egalitarians are cucks who don't understand the nature of women. There was a youtuber who calls himself egalitarian, saying the other day that men and women think in the exact same way and want the same things because they are all human beings. He is a retard, and so is egalitarianism in total. It's simply a push to increase state power whilst making the people accept this fact.
Original post by ubisoft
So you are calling for males to change their personal views? Are you suggesting that females are so weak that they cannot dismiss what other people view them as? You are a sexist.


No I'm saying women are not lesser. Not asking anyone to change their views, I'm voicing my opinion.
Original post by MJlover
Bro I think even suggesting that male supremacy should end makes u radical feminist


But males are no better than females though ?
Reply 76
Original post by ubisoft
So you are calling for males to change their personal views? Are you suggesting that females are so weak that they cannot dismiss what other people view them as? You are a sexist.


Spoiler


kind of logic is that?

It's perfectly reasonable to try to change the personal views of men if they're detrimental to others.
Reply 77
Other than 'raising awareness' and talking about it on internet forums, what other forms of 'activism' are you involved in regarding feminism
Original post by harinimnida
You're not a feminist, you're an Egalitarian~!


How can you be an Egalitarian and not a feminist? That doesn't make any sense.
I am not a feminist. I don't want the government to give power to one group and take it from another in the name of equality. When the groups aren't equal and shouldn't have the same power.

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