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Original post by NathanDYEL
Go find out yourself by talking to some gang members !!! Lazy.....


Child rape/pornography is just one example. Buying drugs means the gang can spread and sell to more and more children....... It's a big chain of things set off from the sale of drugs. Not just child porn and rape. Try googling the harmful effects of buying drugs such as heroin.


No, you're making a claim, provide the evidence.

Original post by NathanDYEL
Who said that? Everyone can have an opinion yeah. Whether it is right or wrong is a different matter


This is not about opinions. It's about facts. Do gangs deal in pornography or not? The answer to this question can either be proven to be true or false. I can say factually that things have happened without having to be directly involved or know directly involved people.
Original post by NathanDYEL
Go find out yourself by talking to some gang members !!! Lazy.....


As if you've ever actually spoken to someone who is involved in serious, organised crime in your life.

Child rape/pornography is just one example.


Then presumably you won't have any problems showing us any convictions against members of the major London drug gangs like Gas, Tottenham Mandem, Peckham Boys for sexual exploitation of children on an organised, commercial basis for child pornography.

Any articles or legal citations are fine.
Original post by Anonymous

Then presumably you won't have any problems showing us any convictions against members of the major London drug gangs like Gas, Tottenham Mandem, Peckham Boys for sexual exploitation of children on an organised, commercial basis for child pornography.

Any articles or legal citations are fine.


Just wait for a failed attempt at a witty comment that completely avoids what you're rightly asking for and continues to employ the most stupidly fallacious arguments I've ever seen.
Original post by Alrounder79
No, you're making a claim, provide the evidence.



This is not about opinions. It's about facts. Do gangs deal in pornography or not? The answer to this question can either be proven to be true or false. I can say factually that things have happened without having to be directly involved or know directly involved people.



I see you've provided no evidence for any of your claims.....No im not going to tell you what claims you made, look yourself.
Original post by Anonymous
As if you've ever actually spoken to someone who is involved in serious, organised crime in your life.



Then presumably you won't have any problems showing us any convictions against members of the major London drug gangs like Gas, Tottenham Mandem, Peckham Boys for sexual exploitation of children on an organised, commercial basis for child pornography.

Any articles or legal citations are fine.



Look for them yourself.
If the feelings are mutual then you know what to do approach her and get the number.
Original post by Alrounder79
Just wait for a failed attempt at a witty comment that completely avoids what you're rightly asking for and continues to employ the most stupidly fallacious arguments I've ever seen.


Precisely. Well said.

And now he's bizarrely claiming that you haven't provided evidence for your "claims" and that "No im not going to tell you what claims you made".

He's a very strange individual. You haven't made any standalone truth claims as far as I can see. All that was happening was that we asked him for evidence for his assertions that London drug gangs deal in child pornography (I wonder if he thinks they sell them on VHS tapes too)
OMG haha ur an a s s h o l e

Even if there's more to your attraction to her than her boobs, you keep going on about having being able to have sex with her, not being in a relationship with her.

Defo deserves better lol
Original post by kiera28
OMG haha ur an a s s h o l e

Even if there's more to your attraction to her than her boobs, you keep going on about having being able to have sex with her, not being in a relationship with her.

Defo deserves better lol


Wanting to have sex with someone is bad now, is it?

I thought it was sexually liberating to be able to want to have sex with as many people as you want, thus all the recent fuss about the unfairness of "slut shaming" etc?
Original post by NathanDYEL
Look for them yourself.


I did. There is none. I searched for news article through Google. I searched the BBC. I even searched on Westlaw (which you wouldn't have access to) and I can see no evidence that there have been prosecutions of any London drug gang members for commercial sexual exploitation of children in the cause of production of child pornography for street sale.

It simply doesn't happen. The world of retail drug gangs is a million miles away from the paedophile enterprises that are prosecuted by the CPS, which are always internet-based, usually international in scope and based around groups of like-minded paedophiles sharing and selling child pornography material to one another. That is a completely different universe to a retail drug gang in Lambeth or Southwark
Original post by NathanDYEL
I see you've provided no evidence for any of your claims.....No im not going to tell you what claims you made, look yourself.


My claims really aren't crucial in this argument. I simply used some examples to show that people don't care for things they are not directly involved in. But fine:

For businesses exploiting cheap labour/child labour:


http://labs.theguardian.com/unicef-child-labour/

"Many of these child labourers work within the fashion supply chain, making the textiles and garments to satisfy the demand of consumers in Europe, the US, and beyond."

http://www.businessinsider.com/you-simply-must-read-this-article-that-explains-why-apple-makes-iphones-in-china-and-why-the-us-is-screwed-2012-1?IR=T

"Your iPhone is built, in part, by 13-year olds working for ~70 cents an hour."

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/apr/30/apple-chinese-factory-workers-suicides-humiliation

"Poorly paid workers are said to work excessive hours and suffer humiliations in the drive to produce iPads and iPhones"

The point that implied attacking deeply personal things about others over the internet affects the other person:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/273788.php

"cyberbullying is more strongly related to suicidal thoughts in children and adolescents than traditional bullying, according to a new analysis published in JAMA Pediatrics."


Now your turn.
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Original post by kiera28
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Even if there's more to your attraction to her than her boobs, you keep going on about having being able to have sex with her, not being in a relationship with her.

Defo deserves better lol


You are a little bit confused, in that she is chasing me, not vice versa. And there is nothing wrong with physical attraction, she doesn't know anything about my personality or my interests, so she has presumably based her attraction on purely physical elements.

My theory is that maybe she thinks along the lines of "Oh, he's on this prescription so he must have been a bit of a bad lad in the past. But he looks so preppy and he smells good. Maybe I can change him" etc.
Original post by Anonymous
I did. There is none. I searched for news article through Google. I searched the BBC. I even searched on Westlaw (which you wouldn't have access to) and I can see no evidence that there have been prosecutions of any London drug gang members for commercial sexual exploitation of children in the cause of production of child pornography for street sale.

It simply doesn't happen. The world of retail drug gangs is a million miles away from the paedophile enterprises that are prosecuted by the CPS, which are always internet-based, usually international in scope and based around groups of like-minded paedophiles sharing and selling child pornography material to one another. That is a completely different universe to a retail drug gang in Lambeth or Southwark


Look harder.
Original post by Alrounder79
My claims really aren't crucial in this argument. I simply used some examples to show that people don't care for things they are not directly involved in. But fine:

For businesses exploiting cheap labour/child labour:


http://labs.theguardian.com/unicef-child-labour/

"Many of these child labourers work within the fashion supply chain, making the textiles and garments to satisfy the demand of consumers in Europe, the US, and beyond."

http://www.businessinsider.com/you-simply-must-read-this-article-that-explains-why-apple-makes-iphones-in-china-and-why-the-us-is-screwed-2012-1?IR=T

"Your iPhone is built, in part, by 13-year olds working for ~70 cents an hour."

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/apr/30/apple-chinese-factory-workers-suicides-humiliation

"Poorly paid workers are said to work excessive hours and suffer humiliations in the drive to produce iPads and iPhones"

The point that implied attacking deeply personal things about others over the internet affects the other person:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/273788.php

"cyberbullying is more strongly related to suicidal thoughts in children and adolescents than traditional bullying, according to a new analysis published in JAMA Pediatrics."


Now your turn.


At least someone is giving them a job. Maybe the parents should not have children if they cannot afford them and live in dangerous countries.
Reply to you chaps tomorrow. Rugby coaching then cinema :smile: Will let you know how spectre is if you haven't already seen it.
Original post by NathanDYEL
Look harder.


I've looked harder, found nothing.

Original post by NathanDYEL
At least someone is giving them a job. Maybe the parents should not have children if they cannot afford them and live in dangerous countries.


Whatever, this is not relevant to our current argument. You asked me to provide evidence for my claims, and now I have. I now await for your evidence of your claims.
That's pretty much that. Good job OP, he's been well and truly exposed.
Original post by NathanDYEL
Reply to you chaps tomorrow. Rugby coaching then cinema :smile: Will let you know how spectre is if you haven't already seen it.


Have a good w ank
Original post by Alrounder79
That's pretty much that. Good job OP, he's been well and truly exposed.


Cheers. He really is a pathetic individual, and it's hilarious to see how desperate he is to "win" the argument that he simply makes things up (the KPMG internship, the claims that drug gangs sell child porn)
Original post by Anonymous
Have a good w ank


I'm going to do heroin durrrr......I can get a lift now so didn't have to leave before x

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