Guys be honest, how much does it matter how a girl looks WITHOUT makeup?

Anyone who sees smoking as anything other than a health problem is not anyone I want to know. jmo

Well some of the guys I know smoke too. Or do drugs (not that I do)

It's quite common to smoke in the UK I think

And a quick one doesnt really harm your health

Well, I'm just going to conclude this with my opinion.

I find out someone smokes, my opinion of them hits the floor. It can take quite a bit of effort to rebuild that.

Lets say a girl was average looking without it (no acne but dark circles due to smoking etc.) but pretty with it on and did it very naturally and looked good when she had on a nice pink or red lipstick and mascara and foundation or something.

Would you care how she looked with out it

That's doesn't seem right. Not all girls wear makeup and I reject the notion that that's the 'standard' or that they should.

I like girls with or without it as long as the choice is theirs, and TBH I'm not too picky about things literally everyone has like dark circles or small scars or whatever. Girls are girls and like 99% of them are gorgeous anyway.

I judge by without makeup how you look with makeup is irrelevant to me

Well about 99% of celebs wear makeup and most girls do too

Why is it irrelevant? Most girls dont look really good without it

Also see: person finds opinion that differs from their own, cannot comprehend it and believes it must just be "me lying to myself"

I'm also a communist; my opinions are generally divergent of the norm. That doesn't make them less valid.