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Is it time to ban private schools

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Don't be ashamed mate; we've all done it.
Cambridge accepts 60% of state school students. So 40% are from private schools.
20% of students around the country go to private schools.

You can finish the maths.
Meritocracy. We gotta work towards it :/

I'm tired of ranting about this socialist 'equality' so i'll just sit and whine :biggrin:
Original post by Melancholy
Are you posh tho?



What has your comment got to do with anything?
Original post by versari
What has your comment got to do with anything?


What has anything got to do with your comment?
Original post by chrisshort
Cambridge accepts 60% of state school students. So 40% are from private schools.
20% of students around the country go to private schools.

You can finish the maths.


Finish the maths and not factor in anything else :biggrin: Beautiful

Guess what. Cambridge should accept 80% of state school students and 20% of private school students PROPORTIONAL to the amount of people it represents in the country -_-. That would be FAIR wouldn't it. :biggrin: Very fair.

I WILL REITERATE M-E-R-I-T-O-C-R-A-C-Y.
LOGICAL (That was all sarcastic incase anyone chooses to shoot back :biggrin: )
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Original post by ChocolateCosmos
Finish the maths and not factor in anything else :biggrin: Beautiful

Guess what. Cambridge should accept 80% of state school students and 20% of private school students PROPORTIONAL to the amount of people it represents in the country -_-. That would be FAIR wouldn't it. :biggrin: Very fair.

I WILL REITERATE M-E-R-I-T-O-C-R-A-C-Y.
LOGICAL (That was all sarcastic incase anyone chooses to shoot back :biggrin: )


Wait, Cambridge should not accept anyone other than the best and those who meet their standards, irrespective of which school they came from.
Original post by Melancholy
What has anything got to do with your comment?



Dopey comp kid
Original post by ivybridge
Wait, Cambridge should not accept anyone other than the best and those who meet their standards, irrespective of which school they came from.


Read what I wrote at the end. You did exactly that :biggrin:!

I put a note at the end of my message check it :biggrin: MWahahah
I put in in bold and italics and underlined it now.
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Original post by ChocolateCosmos
Read what I wrote at the end. You did exactly that :biggrin:!

I put a note at the end of my message check it :biggrin: MWahahah


I'm sorry haha... Anyway, the point still stands as I'm sure someone will agree with that sarcasm!
Original post by ivybridge
I'm sorry haha... Anyway, the point still stands as I'm sure someone will agree with that sarcasm!


:biggrin: Its cool

I don't know why I feel.
Even the 60% accepted from state schools feels oddly like an effort to please the media :/

Just an assumption. Not saying it for sure

Btw. I went to a state school before so I have pretty good standing here to say this without bias.
Original post by ChocolateCosmos
:biggrin: Its cool

I don't know why I feel.
Even the 60% accepted from state schools feels oddly like an effort to please the media :/

Just an assumption. Not saying it for sure

Btw. I went to a state school before so I have pretty good standing here to say this without bias.


I actually agree with you. I personally think there's an obvious reason why those top institutions have such high private school intakes.
Original post by ivybridge
You don't get any university privileges by the way either; universities care about your ability academically, not where you developed that.


In one sense you don't but in another sense you really do - the fact is that whilst universities care most about your ability academically the places where your ability academically improves the most is at private schools - private schooled kids get an advantage towards unievrsity indirectly. Whether you consider that a bad thing or not is up to you, personally I feel as if universities can't do anything but continue the way that they are doing things: However, the fact that privately educated kids can be so advantaged in this way (just look at the statistics) does leave a bitter taste.
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Original post by Skitee
In one sense you don't but in another sense you really do - the fact is that whilst universities care most about your ability academically the places where your ability academically improves the most is at private schools - private schooled kids get an advantage towards unievrsity indirectly. Whether you consider that a bad thing or not is up to you, personally I feel as if universities can't do anything but continue the way that they are doing things: However, the fact that privately educated kids can be so advantaged in this way (just look at the statistics) does leave a bitter taste.


Yes. I agree but that is still the person and it does not intrinsically follow that a comprehensively educated person cannot excel beyond that of a privately educated one. It's down to you in most cases, if not all. So I personally don't believe that means the school you are at is of importance to Oxbridge or any other top institution.
The consequence of banning private schools would mean even that even more students would require state-funded education, which would be a real squeeze on the education budget and lead to the average nationwide education levels dropping.

While I agree in principal that it isn't fair that some have access to a better education than others simply because they were born in to a richer family, I don't think that banning private schools is a viable or worthwhile option.

Different people will always be born in to richer and poorer families, whether private education exists or not. It's not fair, but life isn't fair.
I think private schools are good if people can afford them, and anyone who says otherwise is wanting to restrict a lot of people from reaching their full potential. Although, I do agree, to some extent, that some students undeservedly get put into an environment totally incompatible to them; for example students who want to reach top tier universities being mixed with students who have no aspirations, is just, to me, appalling.
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Original post by cat_Holmes
I don't think that the amount of money your parents have should affect the standard of your education, it just isn't fair! I agree that private schools have nicer facilities and often the students get into better paid professions however, is this more of a case of 'who you know' rather than 'what you know'? As a high achieving student from a comprehensive school I feel that I would have had much better opportunities at a private school but my family just couldn't afford to send me there, it is even become a struggle to pay for university now that the maintenance grant has been scrapped and this just isn't fair. Your standard of education shouldn't be based on your wealth but your eagerness to work.
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Couldn't agree more.

To quote Ms. Sturgeon: 'Your access to education should be based on your ability to learn, not your ability to pay.' . Admittedly this was on university fees but I believe it applies to this. I believe that everyone should start off on a level playing field when it comes to education and then make their way up based on their own ability, and not simply because of the amount of money their parents can throw at them. Yes their parents may have 'worked hard' and you lot think they should be free to choose but I think they can spend it on their child in other ways, but children should all work hard for themselves without relying on the money available to them.
If anything, private schools don't even allow them to 'buy grades'. I went to a comprehensive with a 45% GCSE pass rate and came out with 8A*s and I know many from private schools who got far less. So they are just run like businesses with no care for students, wasting their time and parents' money on pointless extra curricular stuff like croquet or 'verbal reasoning'. So many are just a scam while the ones who may be good simply promote inequality by allowing people to 'buy grades' by locking out capable children whose parents may not be able to afford it.

I am in the minority here, it would be nice if they were. But it won't be happening anytime soon with the current batch of out-of-touch clowns (who it appears further want to increase tuition fees) or even Corbyn who went to one himself.
Money buys power. Its wrong but its reality, get over it. Its survival of the fittest at the end of the day. Ideas like equality dont meld well with that. World is a sick minded place but you just have to live with and work with what you got
Original post by intelligent con
I find it disgusting how these toff factories are still allowed to operate. Everyone who has come to my comprehensive from a private school has been posh and weird so this shows how people in these schools live in a bubble. Additionally it is scientifically proven that state schooled children are smarter than public school ones and do better at uni. Why do we honestly allow these elitist institutions to continue to operate? I wish blair had abolished them while labour was still in power and hope corbyn puts this in his manifesto. Why should money buy people good grades?


i go to a private school i would class myself normal like everyone and i assure you we dont pay for our grades....... or live in a bubble etc. etc. thats just bull****

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