Q; Which of these has the highest rates of TB; London, Iraq, Rwanda, Eritea?

I was being sarcastic... shooting badgers is just fun.

That is my point-this thread is not for intellectual debate but general discussion.

So why is it in the debate forum?

I find it so funny how this ex-UKIP man was vilified for saying London was a dirty dump;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34749969

It is stupid to say London is a dirty dump. It's a fine city, in my opinion the finest in the world next to New York.

So London has a lot of immigrants. So did ancient Rome.

It is stupid to say that London is not a dirty when you look at how many areas are deprived. It is a city with great inequality, in my opinion the one of the most unequal in the world behind some such as New York

Go to a lot of areas and it is a dump.

It is stupid to say that London is not a dirty dump when you look at how many areas are deprived. It is a city with great inequality, in my opinion the one of the most unequal in the world behind some such as New York.

It is my opinion and hardly a stupid one. Feel free to have yours, but it is a bit supid saying mine is stupid. Go to a lot of areas and it is a dump.

Great cities have always been unequal. There are no places in London that you can really say are a slum, or are in any way seriously "dumpy". Then again, I suppose I've actually travelled a bit so I've seen cities in India and Southeast Asia that genuinely are (in fact, even places in the US I've been to)

I'm sincerely not trying to be provocative or salty, but I think your opinion on this simply tells us that you are perhaps not very worldly or widely travelled



Name three.

I have been all over London, I've lived here for four years. Where do you live?

Nothing? I don't remember saying it was "nothing". I said clearly in several posts it was a problem.

However, when the population of London has only just returned to the level it was at in the 1930's it is evident that the numbers currently in London are not the sole reason; immigration plays a part but what is also the problem is how few houses there are on the market and those that are reasonably priced are often dilapidated.

Many immigrants aren't rocket scientists but then most native English people aren't either. In my personal view it amazes me how despite having a free and high quality education system the native English manage to not get jobs over both EU and non-EU migrants who never had the education opportunities the native British had. I mean the way immigration is supposed to work is that you, with your high quality education, do the good jobs and they do the poor and low paid. However, as it turns out if we want doctors we have to look to foreigners because British people don't want to do it. This is a high paying, high prestige job and British people evidently don't want to become GP's-why?

The classic argument over employing foreigners is due to low wages-well GP's can get huge salaries. I'm not sure what immigrants being rocket scientists has to do with this thread, but since it is mentioned I have to be honest the native population in my view really should be laughed at for being less employable than migrants from the likes of Poland, Bulgaria and Romania.

Name three? Southall, Tower Hamlets, many areas in Hackney...
I have been to more places than I am years old. You can assume what you like, doesn't bother me. That you think the above places aren't dumps just tells me you probably live in a dump and don't recognise one when you see it.
Name three? Oh please. The well travelled know that these areas are dumps. Or if you are well travelled but only have the money to visit dumps I guess they tend to look quite nice.

Dumps? The houses still sell for 500k + a pop now. Extremely valuable property areas now regardless. People who own can easily sell up and buy two properties in areas you would deem to be "nice" outside of London.

Go to the areas I have mentioned-the prices might be high but they are still dumps.
Someone areas of London are amongst the most deprived in Europe-and despite that the properties are still expensive. (Someone in Question Time hilariously made this point recently about Tottenham I believe-worth a watch since the episode was based in London).

As a free market capitalist i couldn't care less. If someone gave me a house worth 500k+! They might be deprived but they're still extremely valuable property. Way more expensive than some of the "nicer" parts of Britain.

If people are renting it isn't their home. If people have a huge mortgage that is 20 times their salary they will have a low standard of living compared to those whose mortgage is 5-10 times their wage.

You can say "I couldn't care less" but since this thread is talking about deprived areas, and the prices contribute a lot to this, it is relevant and worth caring about.

Not really. Council/Social policies of those areas is more relevant. They have always been perceived to be low income areas so policies reflect that. The undesirables will be re-housed in these areas regardless of what the locals want. This is not just to do with immigration alone. Not many people in London own their own homes and no one can get 20 times their salary mortgage. What troll nonsense are you talking!?

I will conclude you're just jealous you can't buy into these areas - 500k+ is way out of your league sunshine. I'm sure you have some tea/coffee to make.

Nothing? I don't remember saying it was "nothing". I said clearly in several posts it was a problem.

However, when the population of London has only just returned to the level it was at in the 1930's it is evident that the numbers currently in London are not the sole reason; immigration plays a part but what is also the problem is how few houses there are on the market and those that are reasonably priced are often dilapidated.

Many immigrants aren't rocket scientists but then most native English people aren't either. In my personal view it amazes me how despite having a free and high quality education system the native English manage to not get jobs over both EU and non-EU migrants who never had the education opportunities the native British had. I mean the way immigration is supposed to work is that you, with your high quality education, do the good jobs and they do the poor and low paid. However, as it turns out if we want doctors we have to look to foreigners because British people don't want to do it. This is a high paying, high prestige job and British people evidently don't want to become GP's-why?

The classic argument over employing foreigners is due to low wages-well GP's can get huge salaries. I'm not sure what immigrants being rocket scientists has to do with this thread, but since it is mentioned I have to be honest the native population in my view really should be laughed at for being less employable than migrants from the likes of Poland, Bulgaria and Romania.