Do people deserve benefits?

Personally I believe that if they are able to work they should not get benefits at all, What do you guys think?

The term "people" is variable. from the outset a welfare system is a sensible and protective measure. It aides people
in times of hardship, people for whom work and fiscal responsibility are seen as moral and social obligations.

In terms of policy of entitlement, this is based on an individual or family related need. I do think working people should be
encourgaed to continue as so without state assistance. However with wages rising slowly and prices generally surplusing wages it
is hard for working famillies to provide the 'Bread'. This causes a lot of technical and policy problems for government.

You say if they are "able" to work then they should not recieve benefits. I'm afraid of you ever making it into cabinet or senior
civil service such as the Treasury Dep. I've always been "able" to work but at times have had difficulty finding employment (including
cleaning jobs; something about being over qualified!) according to your "belief" I would not recieve assistance for trying
endlessly to find work and for being turned down by employers themselves. Furthermore I have contributed to the welfare system through tax. Needless to say I've worked various types of jobs and
have pretty good employment record.


I urge you to express yourself concisely; I discern what you meant. ;-)

For example my sister is on benefits, she can work and dropped out of school herself. If people make poor life choices, should we have to pay for that? Furthermore, many that are on benefits deliberately cause themselves 'problems' just to get themselves more money. The government does offer a service to get these people jobs but the benefits money is easier

For example my sister is on benefits, she can work and dropped out of school herself. If people make poor life choices, should we have to pay for that? Furthermore, many that are on benefits deliberately cause themselves 'problems' just to get themselves more money. The government does offer a service to get these people jobs but the benefits money is easier

If it's so ****ING EASY to be on benefits, why aren't you? If life is so good and benefits are enough to live on why doesn't everyone go on benefits?

Dropping out of school is one thing, but not working or putting in effort is to improve one's financial status is equally no good.
Try and ascertain why she choses not to. There MAYBE a valid reason.
If people make poor life choices, provided there is suitable material and reasonably understandable, one is responsible for one's
position and the state should sanction such persons.
When I attended the job centre I thought, by the behaviour of a sizeable minority, it was a bank which gave people free money.
No motivation to work, no willingness to apply of "low" status jobs and even people's demeanor.
Tbh job centre staff are rubbish, by majority. Only a hand few were good. And I wish they would become managers of their offices.
Many of their front of house staff tend to be people who probably would struggle to find employment if ever they lost their current jobs.

If life is so good and benefits are enough to live on why doesn't everyone go on benefits?

Bit touchy. I work and have had a job since 15, so I don't need to I earn more than benefits would give me as it is for many people

I started with 'low status' jobs and now at only 18 have a good job, anyone can do it with motivation and effort, it may be hard but always possible

a tad naive; what about those who are able, but nobody is accepting them for a job?

what about those who need to be topped up?

yes, people milk the system, but there are people who genuinely need it

(I'm not exactly sure of the intricacies of benefits, so I don't care if you quote me.)

So since you accept that a job pays more than benefits, why would anyone CHOOSE benefits? I just don't understand how so many people think that it's so easy to be on benefits but instead choose to work? Surely that suggests they know it's not as easy as they claim it is and instead just want to feel superior about the fact they are employed whilst making those who cannot work for whatever reason feel inadequate?

This !
£ 72 a week Jobseeker's Allowance is hardly an over payment or too much of a luxury for anyone to be getting.

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Because they dont have to work, they have housing and bills paid for by the taxpayer and and thus they get as much as they like. Some have 14 kids, why? Because more money, it is that simple. I opened this thread for good debate, not passive aggressive attitudes so can we be a bit more civilised?

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£72 Is the bare minimum, they dont pay housing or bills either, £72 is enough to live on, they wouldnt make it that small otherwise. Why do so many have huge tvs and the latest tech, they get additional things too

You know debate doesn't mean that only views you agree with get to be voiced, right?



People under 25 on JSA get less than £58 a week. There are maximum amounts of housing benefit that someone can get for their age and family circumstances which depend on the price a council thinks the average rent is in their area - this is below the rent a lot of people will have to pay for their accommodation and any extra comes out of their JSA. Council tax is reduced but some still needs paying. Bills have to come out of a person's JSA (I don't know why people think these are paid for you). I don't know about housing benefit rates within London but I can promise you that on JSA, housing benefit and council tax benefit anywhere else in the country you would still have nowhere near the amount you would earn (after tax) from a full-time minimum wage job.

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£72 Is the bare minimum, they dont pay housing or bills either, £72 is enough to live on, they wouldnt make it that small otherwise. Why do so many have huge tvs and the latest tech, they get additional things too

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First I didn't say that, you came in very aggressively and even beeped out a swear word

And that isn't true, I happen to know a lot about the welfare system as members of family are on it. Do not try and dictate how much you know if you really don't know much at all.