Surprise surprise, its happened again.....

They've been doing this for years, they get encouraged and supported to do it by some bought politicians and policemen, its part of the ongoing war to destroy the British people and create racial tensions.

I agree up to a point. I wouldn't necessarily want to live in a 100% WASP society but there's no avoiding the obvious; that some cultures are so alien to the norms in the west that they may as well be from Mars.

In non PC terms: I don't mind the odd nig-nog or Indians running the local 7:11 but I don't want to be surrounded by them.

I don't think the did it because they are Asian. I think many Muslims do view white, promiscuous British women as almost sub-human, though.

It's not so much finding a critique in multiculturalism as a state policy, but the brash remarks made at the expense of ethnic minorities whenever a topic like this comes up. I believe having different cultures and diversity does enrich society, however having certain values such as a belief in democracy and equality etc. are things all British citizens should take in and feel proud of. Having different cultures doesn't automatically mean groups will be isolated from each other, and people from ethnic minority backgrounds should be allowed to express themselves and their culture without fear of a backlash.

Regardless, I did say 'hate multiculturalism' rather than having reservations about it. Such hate seems to stem from xenophobia really, this weird fear that British values are being eroded and 'the white man is in trouble' ooooo *spooky*.

I've seen them. I dont necessarily agree, but I've seen them. However, it is not wrong to point out that some cultures treat women, particularly young girls disrespectfully and exploitatively. As we have seen here with the sexual exploitation of a young girl. We must ask ourselves, what makes rapist rape? The answer is usually aggression, alcohol or culture. The former two dont apply in this case, the last one does because of the numbers involved and their background.

I agree up to a point. I wouldn't necessarily want to live in a 100% WASP society but there's no avoiding the obvious; that some cultures are so alien to the norms in the west that they may as well be from Mars.

In non PC terms: I don't mind the odd nig-nog or Indians running the local 7:11 but I don't want to be surrounded by them.

disgusting...but when you're from a culture where multiple wives is the norm I guess gang-rape seems logical.

Being in touch with my culture, I don't remember being told rape is acceptable. What are you guys on about

Groups of men have been grooming and raping vulnerable girls since before we were born, and will continue to do so after we die, unfortunateley it is a fact of life. Some are black some are white some are Asian, and there's very little anyone can do to stop it. We will never be able to clear up the social issues that causes these girls to accept and in some cases seek these damaging relationships (before anyone leaps down my throats yes it does happen especially with girls in care, and that doesn't make what these men do OK. Even if they seek it out it is not their fault they are treated like that, men should know better). And we cannot stop men raping. Ibe seen it happen to a friend's daughter and I've no idea what could have been done to prevent it, especially when she refused to accept help. Fortunately this girl reached out, which will stop these men doing it to others. I'm sure others will just take their place though
It's all very depressing.

I've never come across this view among the bangladeshi and pakistani in Swansea, but maybe in places like London where there are huge communities of Pakistanis where whites are hardly seen it's different. In fact, that's a probably, not a maybe.

Look, I'm sorry, but as a member of the muslim community I have to say that a large proportion of these crimes recently have been perpetrated by groups of people from majority muslim cultural backgrounds, mainly pakistani - although not showing any particular regard for the rules of their religion. This isn't a religious problem, it's a cultural one - and while acknowledging that the majority of Pakistanis in the uk don't look down on women to the extent that these men do, there -must- be an underlying common factor that produces this criminal behaviour.

To be honest living in London and growing up in Birmingham this whole 'places where white people are hardly seen' really is a myth. I mean even really non white areas tend to have a bunch of either Irish or Italians still living there from before the immigration patterns changed. And people have to leave their community to work most of the time on top of that.

I think guys like these generally come from crappy families where their parents don't really care about them. They drink and do drugs and are generally just not very nice people. They're 'muslim' but they aren't really Muslim, if you know what I mean? However the authorities and support services have and certainly historically had a lot less access to them so they grow up really ****ed up, with a terrible attitude towards women, because maybe thats what they're used to at home.

If 15 white guys raped a white girl, noone would say culture is the problem. Noone would say 'Christianity' is the problem.

Oh for sure, and I'm not saying how these guys were brought up and the cultural influences they had aren't a factor. I just didn't like the blatant xenophobia is all. Plus, 'don't necessarily agree'? In your previous post you very much stressed the difference between race, religion and culture. 'Don't necessarily agree' doesn't sound much like "I completely disagree" tbh, which judging by your last post, you should be.

It cannot be avoided that in recent years a very high proportion of similar cases have involved perpetrators from indian-subcontinental cultures.



I agree with you, except for the fact that there's a decent chance the men involved were secular enough to drink alcohol, considering that the other, similar cases where the rapists where from the indian subcontinent have shown the same thing, as well as involvement with drugs.

disgusting...but when you're from a culture where multiple wives is the norm I guess gang-rape seems logical.