Muslim woman in Hijab pushed into a moving train by a man in London

Evidently even with this people still don't care.

Therefore the more publicity on more well-recognised media would help.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread (except for one crazy user) defending this crime. What they are pointing out is that this random and abominable crime simply is not part of the narrative that the OP paints that this is part of a campaign of oppression against Muslims, that all Muslims are victims of a conspiracy against them.

If the OP was simply drawing attention to this terrible crime committed by a mentally ill old Japanese man then that would be one thing. But given the OP is using this as a means to argue that Muslims are an oppressed class in the West then it is fair to point out that women in hijabs experience more violence from their husbands and family members than from the evil kaffir

So? Does the fact the victim of this random attack was a Muslim make it more notable?

The perpetrator was a crazy old Japanese man. It was a random and terrible crime, not a conspiracy to oppress Muslims

The fact that in their view a woman must be subject to standards of modesty far in excess of those applying to men is a prima facie manifestation of the oppression. I wouldn't say all Muslim women who wear the hijab are oppressed, some genuinely do have a choice, but equally there are many who don't.

It's also true that even looking at middle and upper-middle class Muslim women who do get a university education, this is often simply to increase their value on the marriage market and they don't work following marriage



How do I know that an old 81 year old Japanese pensioner who pushed a woman into an oncoming train is crazy?

You can't seriously be suggesting this is some kind of conspiracy. Who would have paid him to push the woman into the oncoming train? Or do you believe this is part of the evil kaffir conspiracy to oppress Muslims, and they paid some old man to push a random woman into an oncoming train... simply because they like it?

If you genuinely believe that I don't think we're even on the same plane of sanity

These kind of views have not only been consigned to the far-right but have permeated through the very fabric of society and are now largely becoming mainstream setting a very dangerous precedent.

Of course it makes it more notable.

The justification, or indeed the mitigation of this kind of crime by certain users who are of a particular persuasion serves to underline how unacceptable behaviour towards minorities can quickly become mainstream.

Publicity of what? You're saying that it's more important when it's a Muslim victim of crime than when it's a non-Muslim victim of crime?

3) the guy who filmed this - BIG HIM UP because without him no one would EVER know the truth. I hope he gets to the highest ranks of his job and continues to release footage like this to the rest of the world.

1) muslim women wear the clothes and hijab because it is part of the religion.

I can assure you are not oppressed, it is their own choice.

So the question of oppression can be ruled out as THIS topic has NOTHING to do with a man pushing a muslim onto a train to nearly kill her or land her with brain damage.

2) that may have been in the 1500 but like all cultures and religions Islam is moving forward and there are so many more Muslim doctors in the UK hospitals than any other religion. And yes they do work after marriage, this is not the 1500s.

3) again with the oppression. What is with you and oppression! Go look up the meaning. This topic has literally NOTHING to do with oppression.

I have reported them to the police and I have sent a formal complaint to the Transport police's Information Officer.

Using his mobile phone at work to record what should be private security footage is simply wrong (it's a massive breach of trust) and I've been informed by the police illegal according to guidelines given by the Information Commissioner's Office.

Expect this is wrong

the crime is already known about and he has already been charged so how you can claim no one would know the 'truth' is clearly wrong

the person who filmed this will lose their Job and I and others will see to this

I have reported them to the police and I have sent a formal complaint to the Transport police's Information Officer.

Using his mobile phone at work to record what should be private security footage is simply wrong (it's a massive breach of trust) and I've been informed by the police illegal according to guidelines given by the Information Commissioner's Office.

I will not comment as the main concern about this thread is not the man that filmed it.
It is just sad to think that if this was a different situation where a Muslim man crazy or drunk pushed a non-muslim woman then everyone would again hate on muslims and very little thought would've been given to the person who filmed this.

It is just sad to think that if this was a different situation where a Muslim man crazy or drunk pushed a non-muslim woman then everyone would again hate on muslims and very little thought would've been given to the person who filmed this.

You seem to be confused. The woman was attacked by an 81 year old Japanese pensioner, the man is clearly not right in the head. So unfortunately for you, you can't use this poor woman's suffering to build up the narrative of Muslim victimhood.

You seem to be confused again. The crime was carried out by a crazy old man, and everyone bar one on this thread has said it's terrible she suffered. The reason you're whining is that you're frustrated this can't be used to buttress the paranoid narrative of a Western conspiracy against its Muslim citizens.

This man within TFL or the transport police was clearly leaking confidential information for political/religious purposes, which is an outrage.

I'm concerned that you would immediately label any narrative that runs contrary to your thinking as "confused".

excuse the behaviour of the user or the old man.

So the hijab is part of the Muslim religion? I thought we were always being told it was cultural not religious. In any case, that simply underlines my point that the Islamic religion prescribes an inferior status for women, just as a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man's in an Islamic court

You can give no such assurance. Like with any religious group, there will be some women who wear it by choice and some who do not. The fact is that in many Muslim countries women do not have a choice, if you go onto the streets in Saudi Arabia without a niqab you face arrest, sexual harassment or worse.

It would have nothing to do with it if it was simply being raised as a random and terrible crime, which it is. But you and your friends on here seem to keep raising the fact the victim is a Muslim, as if to say that Muslim lives are worth more than kaffir lives.

The fact that every random crime against a Muslim is retweeted and shared and hyperventilated over by obsessive Muslims is very sad. It is very sad that they are adopting paranoid modes of thinking and are obsessing over their non-existent victimhood. Unfortunately there are many in the Muslim community who thrive on self-pity.

Some do, many don't. It is indeed not the 1500s, which raises questions of why Muslim women need to be clothed as if they were property, as if they were part of some rich man's harem.

It is for me

the police were already dealing with the incident and the bloke had already been charged

But as I said I'll make sure this doesn't end well for the person who filmed this

There are crimes all the time by Muslims against non-Muslims. A group of Muslims are on trial right now for raping a 14 year old girl.

Your attitude clearly shows you see non-Muslims as inferior, and less worthy of your concern

Yeah well exactly. You are basically saying small children are oppressed by their parents by making/forcing them to eat the food they want them to eat.

I am saying anything anyone does should be widely publicised and the muslim attack ones arent

No actually I know about that and i hope those vile men get what they deserve.

You dont know how to stay on topic though do you?