"Shootings" reported in central Paris.

Anyone find it interesting that this came so soon after the apparent death of Jihadi John?

This is not good folks.

The coming war against Islam has taken another step forward tonight.

It's all linked. Anon states that we're the next couple of countries to be attacked.

Hate does not arise for no reason. Greed is what causes hate. Revenge is for taking back the resources stolen from you in the past.

The West has done a lot of stealing. Being nice about it now won't stop the Third World or Muslims or whoever whichever governments target for exploitation hating you - the difference in development status will never go away. The hate might dissipate, but people have long memories.

So, in theory, if the West got out of the ME, then over generations they would stop hating the West, like the Indians have stopped hating the Brits. But, once the West gets out, someone else will get in.

The fight for resources will and must continue, it won't even stop if we develop into a world where we have superefficient recycling and fusion power.We will compete for materials to maximise processing power, or hydrogen, or whatever the next limited resource is.

So the best thing to do is buckle down, exploit others as much as circumstances allow and stop spillover effects affecting your home country. Pacifistic policies, no matter how well intentioned, will only need to national suicide or irrelevance, even if hate subsides.

An example, couldn't be bothered to go more than two pages back - it's 4 a.m here. :-)

Anything else?

But there's so many successful nations pursuing passive politics and doing fine, Switzerland, most European nations (who are also not suffering much terrorist danger at all), Iceland, NZ, many more I'm sure but we never hear about them in the news because they keep below the radar

Of course countries compete, but if they compete as businesses do, and don't curtail people's abilities to further their dreams then it can be completely peaceful - I would believe (or at least violent episodes are unconnected and don't all stem from a single fount of opposition)

when people keep saying this what do you want done?

what should we do? get rid of all muslims like hitler did to the nazi's?

This has to be the catalyst for change. Now or never folks. Either fight back against Islamification now or wait until there are too many of them.

The coming war? "The coming war"? Islam is already at war with the civilised world. It is up to the public now to put an end to it.

I've just heard about this story, but can we put aside the whole 'I hate muslims, can they gtfo" "we need to close our borders" comments away for ONE second? It would just be nice to show some solitude towards the French, and give our condolences to any who were affected by the tragedy, rather than devolve into arguments about Islam. It's not the kind of mature response we should have after a shooting took place only hours ago.

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Anon? Andd what statement?

Wake up to what? I'm not an apologist for anything. I am calling for rationality, rather than spewing comments such as "To hell with human rights" and "show no mercy". So you think that we should stoop down to their level? We should totally ignore human rights? If you want to live in a society where human rights don't exist, by all means move to Syria and live with ISIS.

What we need are rational responses and we need to approach what is a sensitive issue appropriately and not rush into it all hot headed and cause more issues.

Has this actually been shown to be from Muslims or are people merely speculating? if it's the latter then it's disgusting. Ffs, let the dust settle and wait till we have the facts rather than speculating to promote your own hateful ideology.
It may well turn out to be Muslims, but until then let's wait for the facts.

I don't know but I'm sure there are ways. What are we going to do about people already in the country?

Lee Rigby was British after all.

Anonymous the hacking group - apparently a letter or email was allegedly intercepted and it was stated that many countries including ours would be targeted as a result of publicising the jihadi Jon killing.